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question on how to defeat the 3rd pokemon in gym without defeating the 1st and 2nd pokemon?

Hi everyone, this morning i encounter someone defeat the full health 3rd pokemon during gym battle straight while the 1st and 2nd pokemon were left with 2/3 HP. I don't even have chance to feed the GBs for the 3rd pokemon. Can some experts here please explain on how it works?

Asked by poke_fan6 years ago
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This takes two accounts. The first account battles the gym and the second, which matches the gym color, feeds berries to the now demotivated mons.

After 3 rounds of battle, any pokemon not fed berrieswill fall out, but those fed will stay.

This is called shaving.

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hi vulcan,

this morning that i encounter is not in this way. nobody feed the 1st(blissey) and 2nd pokemon(dragonite) and they were left with 2/3 hp. 3rd pokemon (chansey) instant die and was kick out immediately from gym. I heard that there are tricks to instant die on the 1st pokemon. But how they manage to bypass the 1st and 2nd pokemon and instant kill the 3rd pokemon?

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It can happen even without cheating, if the owners of the first and second defender feed only their own Pokemon, but do not care about the others. Also the owner of the second defender might feed the one in front of his own for added protection. This feeding strategy makes sense if you are low on Golden Razzberries.

Another scenario would be three attackers trying a staggered attack to prevent feeding. They botch their timing on the first two defenders, but succeed on the third one.

Shavers can be identified by ending the attack after kicking out a single defender. Unless they plan to place from multiple accounts, too.

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you can't do synchronized attack on anything other than the first pokemon since it require leaving the battle.

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Never heard about this shaving? What's the point? Gain more xp?

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For players with multiple accounts, it lets them use one of their accounts to remove that single Pokémon from the gym and add their own. That's where most of the anger over this sort of playing comes from. Technically, I could shave a single Pokémon off of a Mystic or Valor gym so a friend who is a Mystic or Valor can put their own Pokémon on, but the real anger is directed at people with multiple accounts.

It can also be used to harass other players; imagine if you put your Pokémon on a gym, and it comes back... but yours is the ONLY Pokémon that was kicked off the gym. The entire gym wasn't taken down, it was just your single Pokémon. It's rather difficult to see that as anything but an attack on you, individually.

The only "legitimate" reason I can think of for shaving is to get your own Pokémon off of a gym, either to be able to use it elsewhere (say you put a Tyranitar on a gym without thinking it through, and you need that Tyranitar for a raid) or to get your coins for the day (particularly if you've been defending a gym for days on end - something which is a big issue in suburban and rural area's). I'm less likely to criticize people who shave for that reason, but I'd prefer if Niantic fixed that particular problem rather than people resort to practises most Players find unethical, to use them in ethical manners.

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In some cases, people over estimate shaving and underestimate people attacking a gym only getting 1 kill in.

There's a gym I see from my house, its on a corner with a fairly long light. I've seen the battle message often from it, and seen only 1-2-3 tops hits. Meaning if you were in first 3 spots and low motivation, your gone even though the gym isn't being taken over.

And of course there's raid about to start fail. I've tried taking over a gym only to fail with a raid and not turn it. So a gym that might have had 6 pokemon in it, might have 1-4 in it when hatch. Raid over, I'm long gone, other players on that team can fill it back up.

I suspect shaving is generally dead. It takes 10 minutes for the gym to reopen to drop a pokemon in. I can't imagine many wait.

In static CP driven towers of old, it happened a lot, so I suspect people still think it happens. But decay knockouts or preraid knockouts are probably far more common than shaving.

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3 people battling the first and the second Pokémon.

Suddenly, 2 players got their Internet lagged, with one being heavily.

The first player defeated the third Pokémon before the second player connects to the server.

And then, the second player joins in and battle, and wins before the third player (who is heavily lagged) can join.

Finally, the third player connects and simply kicks the Pokémon out.

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that's interesting. but that will still leave some spare time for us to feed the GB and restored the 3rd pokemon back to full health. What i encounter is the 3rd pokemon instantly gone from the gym while 1st and 2nd pokemon at 2/3hp left. I got no chance to see the 3rd pokemon drop hp. This really puzzled me on how they did it.

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Lag on your end. Often you won't see one drop while watching especially remotely.

Odds are just 3 seperate waves in, and your phone lagged out so u saw first drop and berried, saw second drop and berried.... lagged and 3rd died.

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by Croc 6 years ago

Gym Hogs and Spoofers are usually the targets of shavers these days. I hope you are not one of them.

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