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Objective PvP Quick Move Tiers

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/a5r1kf/pvp_move_data_from_game_master/

Note that these moves don't necessarily apply to Raids/Gyms. In balanced scenarios I'll favor Energy slightly because of shields. These could be moved around obviously, as they come so close and don't factor in typing and learnset, this just helps you to make decisions on what mons have good moves.

1) Counter: DPS 4, EPS 3.5
2) Vine Whip: DPS 2.5, EPS 4
3) Bubble: DPS 2.67, EPS 3.67
4) Bullet Punch, Shadow Claw, Poison Jab: DPS 3, EPS 3.5
5) Fire Spin/Dragon Tail: DPS 3, EPS 3.33
6) Dragonbreath: DPS 4, EPS 3
7) Mud Shot/Psycho Cut/Thundershock: DPS 1.5, EPS 4.5
8) Spark/Powder Snow/Fury Cutter: DPS 2, EPS 4
9) Karate Chop/Sucker Punch/Wing Attack/Quick Attack: DPS 2.5, EPS 3.5
10) Ice Shard/Snarl/Extrasensory: DPS 2.67, EPS 3.33
11) Infestation/Hex: DPS 2, EPS 3.67
12) Confusion/Lick/Water Gun/Feint Attack/Bug Bite/Water Gun/Ember/Air Slash: DPS 3, EPS 3
13) Rock Throw: DPS 4, EPS 2.5
14) Waterfall/Smack Down: DPS 3.33, EPS 2.67
15) Fire Fang/Steel Wing: DPS 3.5, EPS 2.5
16) Mud Slap/Hidden Power/Struggle Bug: DPS 3, EPS 2.67
17) Razor Leaf/Scratch/Bite: DPS 4, EPS 2
18) Acid/Peck/Frost Breath: DPS 3, EPS 2.5
19) Present: DPS 1, EPS 4
20) Rock Smash: DPS 3, EPS 2.33
21) Cut/Iron Tail/Tackle: DPS 3, EPS 2
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If the move doesn't show up here, such as common examples Pound, Volt Switch, Zen Headbutt, and Low kick, you're better off using something else.

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Any of the moves stated as being duration 1 second are essentially broken and should be at the top of this list

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I think the guy who made that chart semi arbitrarily rounded the time up on these moves to one second, their actual time is near zero so they are only limited by latency. On top of that because moves always do 1 damage it doesn't even mater if its nve. There are a few vids around demonstrating this with lick, dragon breath etc.
I had a mawile scratched to death by a persian before it could do bugger all it was a farce even though the persion should of been ata disadvantage
Even worse if its on an apple phone against android were even a crap apple phone seems to get an advantage over a s9 due to the way niantic has implemented synchronization.

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