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First T3 solo: Scyther

As the headline suggests I managed to beat Scyther by myself today on the first try with ~14 seconds to spare. It was my first ever T3 solo! Moveset was double Slash (Air+Night). My lineup (IVs as S/A/D):

1. Lv. 29,5 Golem RT/RB 14/15/13 -- 2441 CP
2. Lv. 20 Tyranitar B/SE 10/12/10 -- 2026 CP
3. Lv. 30 Dragonite DT/O 15/12/14 -- 3030 CP
4. Lv. 30 Arcanine FF/FB 12/13/14 -- 2388 CP
5. Lv. 27 Zapdos CB/TB 11/12/10 -- 2483 CP
Didn't get to the 6th mon.

Notes from lineup:
1. Once I saw Scyther pop up, I finally had a good reason to TM my Golem's both moves (even though Raikou is still going on here).
2. I don't have any powered up Tyranitars (I have total of 3, best IVs 13/11/10). This was my only one with SE and I was very pleasantly surprised by his performance.
The rest carried their weight. I love my Arcanine so it was great to be able to use him and be victorious as well.

I was rather surprised that Tyranitar wasn't listed as a counter for Scyther in the solo guide. I assume the benefits you'd get from having a higher level Tyranitar would outweigh the benefits I had from resisting both of the boss's moves.

*Tl;dr:* Scyther can be comfortably soloed with level 30 and below Pokémon and even then you don't need an optimized team. I still recommend at least one double-Rock Golem (or Omastar if you're lucky enough to have one).

Asked by Ildamon6 years 5 months ago
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by daltry 6 years 5 months ago

Ttar with Stone Edge is a decent counter. So are Flareon, and most people have several of those. In short, most people should have plenty of decent counters to take this guy down easy. But those double rock Golems get you way ahead on the time curve.

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by YodaJi 6 years 5 months ago

I did a Scyther for the first time last night and finished it with single digit seconds left and 5 mons. It should have been easier if I had selected a better team but I was in a hurray and just went with the games preselected team. I had two RT/SE Golem (levels 35.5 and 32) and a TS/WC Raikou (level 22) that did the bulk of the work. The game had selected a level 26 RS/SE Rhydon that did terribly and wasted time with inadequate damage then I had a level 20 Entei that cleaned up.

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I was able to solo with almost 50 seconds left on the clock with 4 golems at lvl 30 with dbl rock moves. This is the easiest T3 raid by far and u don't need to dump any dust into it

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I was under the impression that Porygon is even easier. That said, Scyther certainly isn't very difficult as you can tell by looking at the team I used.

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Tyranitar is great against air slash/night slash since he's neutral to flying and resists dark. But if you had a fury cutter/X-scizzors Scyther, Tyranitar would have collapsed like a house of cards in a jet engine exhaust.

Bring more Golems to the table. Start raiding them to get better at soloing Scyther.

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Is it so even with higher level Tyranitars, say 25+? I realize X-Scissor could pose some problems but it's just one charge move out of three. Does Fury Cutter also do significant damage to Tyranitar? If it does, Tyra is a fine counter 1/3 of the time and if it doesn't 2/3 of the time.

Lastly, Tyranitar resists Flying as well due to his Rock typing.

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Even if Fury Cutter is effective on TTar, it's a super fast and EXTREMELY weak quick move, mostly boasting energy build up.

This means on defense it will do about -500 damage per hit.

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Yeah, I thought so. The Scyther solo guide says that Fury Cutter merely tickles attackers and I guess 1,4 x Tickle doesn't amount to much. Thus it seems that Tyranitar does fine two thirds of the time, that is as long as Scyther doesn't have X-Scissor.

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Completed 2nd scyther and decided to dodge charged attacks seem to drop faster only needed 3 golems

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by blchg 6 years 5 months ago

Congrats! Try Machamp, Gengar, ... they are fun to solo!

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Thanks! I'd love to do those but I'm pretty certain I don't have good enough teams for them. My only Psychic type with FS is an Espeon with ~2100 cp, two other Espys have the other two charge moves. Both of my two Dragonites have Outrage (not that I'm complaining) and my only Alakazam has SB. I assume Machamp does require more effort than Scyther since he doesn't have a double weakness, am I correct?

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Yes, Machamp & Gengar are harder. They both took me several attempts and I am level 39. Also, Omastar has a double weakness but is quite difficult, I've failed at that one as well.

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Omastar is simply a matter of employing level 30+ big grass attackers with double grass movesets. You need at least five, in my experience. I failed with four plus a level 30 Zapdos and level 30 Raikou. Then, I swapped out the legendary electrics for two CP 1900 Victreebels, and I won with 20 seconds remaining.

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by daltry 6 years 5 months ago

They have now updated the Tier 3 solo guide. But I don't think the difficulty summaries are very good. To call Machamp "very easy" and then Scyther and Porygon "very easy" is lazy. There is a huge difference in effort and team requirement. Machamp is NOT "very easy" for most people unless you get the weakest of the boss moves.

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I agree with this. Machamp was easy compared to the other t3 bosses before, but is much more difficult than Porygon and Scyther (I haven't actually done Scyther yet, but it looks much easier than Machamp on paper).

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Right, only after I powered up my 93% Lugia over 34xx, felt I a little of ease to solo Machamp!

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We haven't gotten around to updating the difficulty descriptions yet. They're part of a template that I can't directly edit.

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