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Lapras/Snorlax defending moveset ranked B, worse than tier 3?

Hi, I was wondering if a defending moveset of Lapras or Snorlax that's ranked with a B (Frost Breath/Ice Beam, Lick/Hyper Beam respectively) is ranked worse than a tier 3 defender's optimal moveset?
Asking this because only Omastar has a sidenote that says he's one tier lower with a non-optimal moveset, which looks to me like even non-optimal movesets of tier 1 defenders are outclassed by optimal movesets of tier 3 defenders...

Asked by JeroenH0077 years 4 months ago
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They are still definitely higher. Actually Snorlax and Lapras will pretty much perform better with their worst movesets than other Pokemon with their best.

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So why does only Omastar has a sidenote saying that he's a tier lower with a different moveset?

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because omastar with water gun really sucks on defense, hes the only one with this sidenote. this not applies to Snorlax and Lapras.

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Omastar's optimal moveset is legacy, the tier 2 set is the best available now.

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A terrible IV snorlax and suboptimal moveset with high CP will perform better than the majority of the game with good IV and optimal moveset and high CP as a defender.

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B puts it about half a tier lower, C puts it a full tier lower. D or F is pretty much unusable.

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That's incorrect. The moveset rankings are designed to compare two pokemon of the same species to one another. They are not an absolute raking system, and they don't neatly map onto the attacker/defender lists (because some pokemon are intrinsically better than others regardless of moveset). For example: a ZH/BS Snorlax is rated an A defender, while a L/E Snorlax is rated a D defender; the former is obviously a better choice compared to the latter. However, both Snorlaxes would rate as Tier 1 (or maybe Tier 1.5) defenders due to Snorlax's huge HP pool, high CP, lack of elemental weaknesses, and decent DPS.

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Snorlax with a suboptimal moveset is still golden -- ZH/HB or ZH/EQ; however, Snorlax with Lick is terrible on D.

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by Impala 7 years 4 months ago

I would say that L/EQ Snorlax (worst moveset) is between tier1.5 and tier2.
All ZH moveset and L/BS are tier1.

For Lapras u would say all IS moveset are tier1 and all FB moveset are tier 1,5

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