Dragonite new best moveset?
Pokemon go db and Rankedboost and all other sites except this one rated Dragon Tail / Hurricane as best moveset with best DPS, I mean Hurricane has same dmg as Outrage but it is 1.20 sec quicker that means I use 1 Hurricane and 1 Dragon Tail (left with 0.10 even for dodging :D) even this site rated Hurricane with 21 more DPS both DT/OT and DT/HU are rated A for attacking but Outrage only better on this site HOW and WHY?! HU 67 DPS and OT 46 DPS (+1 more DT 22DPS because OT is slower 1.20 sec then HU and cd on DT is 1.10). Least and last I think it's better to have high DPS flying move with someone as other flying pokemon sux...
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Have you done any raids? I've done 9 and having a 2 bar move is much better...When that Snorlax has Hyperbeam, you're not going to probably have enough time to spam attack 2 Hurricanes...
I tend to not dodge and just use all 6 in my team so I can definitely spam 2 Outrages...
Dnite can get both charge moves out and possibly 1 more actually since I think you can survive 1 Hyperbeam so 3 Outrages or 1 Hurricane (or at best 2?).
It's because of the DPE (damage per energy).
Outrage has 220 damage per 100 energy, while Hurricane has 110 damage per 100 energy. This compensates the slowness from Outrage.
Time to use 2 Outrages = 7.8 seconds
On this time you can use 1 Hurricane (2.7 seconds) plus 4 Dragon Tails (4.4 seconds) = 7.1 seconds.
2 Outrages (7.8 seconds) = 220 damage
1 Hurricane + 4 Dragon Tail (7.1 seconds) = 170 damage
1 Hurricane + 5 Dragon Tail (8.2 seconds) = 185 damage
Also, two bar charge moves have better energy efficiency, since you have more room to manage and plan your charge attacks.
Hurricane only has the upper hand against mons with weakness to flying.
This is wrong on so many levels, so if ultra slow HB is a 2 charge move it would be better then all other movesets. I prefer to believe numbers which clearly says on this site 67 DPS HU and 56 DPS OU, as I said HU spends all energy and then you can safely spam DT and charge another but if you use 2 OU in a row you will get hit by raid boss almost every time. I won't change my 100IV Dragonite to DT/OU because DT/HU is better :D, he had SW/DP.
The DPS statistics from this site means nothing for charge moves.
It only takes into count the few seconds from the charge moves.
Take Jolteon for instance.
Thunder = 60 DPS
Thunderbolt = 46DPS
Check any site to see which one is a better move. Everyone will tell you it's Thunderbolt.
DPE is more important than the DPS of the time of the move in most cases.
You have to run the calculations for an entire circle to see which one is better, like I did with the Dragonite's moves in the post above.
Yup you need to consider energy cost and damage per energy. Because charged moves have higher DPS moves you want to use them as often as possible. Not all 2 bar charge moves are good, but ones like Outrage, thunderbolt and dynamic punch are very strong relative to their energy cost. Water pulse is an example of a bad 2 bar charge move.
That because your friend does not know when to use their charged attack and and may be doing something dumb like building up both bars then using them back to back.
The way to use multiple charge bar moves is to spam the quick attack to build up energy, wait for the defender to use their charged attack, dodge, then use your charged attack and keep spamming quick attacks after to rebuild the newly depleted bar.
A raid boss will get off more charged attacks because their energy builds as they receive damage by all attackers and do damage to all attackers. Ive had a Tyranitar launch 9 crunches in a row because we were a team of 17 players all with vaperons and machamps pounding the hell out of it. No one could have done a charged attack unless they were willing to get hit by a crunch.
