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Best movesets for Mewtwo and Giratina for PvP and PvE? (and which one to invest into?)

I have Mewtwo lvl40 14atk 15def 14 hp with Confusion/Shadow Ball, and today i got lvl 20 15atk 15def 13hp Giratina with Dragon Breath and Dragon Claw. Currently i don't need to power up attackers for raids and gyms or defenders to defend gyms, so I wonder if it's better to buy a new attack to Mewtwo or save candies and stardust to power up and unlock 2nd charge move to Giratina (max out and use in Master League). Mewtwo would be less expensive (i have enough dust and candy right now), and would be also useful in raids and gyms, but trying to get one attack i want would be... 1/5 on unlock, and 1/4 after each CTM. Giratina would be guaranteed to get right move after buying 2nd charge move, but stardust and candy costs will be ginormous.

Asked by MikeClaus20015 years 2 months ago
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Mewtwo's best PvE moveset is Psychocut/shadow ball in my oppintion based on practice, spreadsheets list Confusion, but psycho cut's much more dodge friendly to. (confusion/psychic is its best nonlegacy set for psychic specialist) and if you have a lot of CTM's, can be an (expensive) tm'able protean If you dont have the other attackers of those types

For PvP, Psycho cut and a combination of shadow ball, and icebeam/thunderbolt/possibly focus blast, but theres not much weak to fighting aside from tyranitar/meltetal (tyranitar in particular absolutely eats mewtwo because of B/C in my experience). This is mostly for masters, but in masters theres a lot of other pokemon that are fantastic, and mewtwo's big PvP weakness is it absolutely needs shields to be cleared out before it comes in late in the fight (generally your last pokemon), as most things in masters resist psychic type and its damage is almost exclusively charge moves, and being paired with a shield breaker early on is a big tell mewtwo's in the last slot. I wouldn't recommend mewtwo for PvP first, it is good, but there are others that i've found better/more reliable and it's is very dependent on charge moves, making it very easy to dismantle. Having used one, when mewtwo has those match ups to win, it wins by a long shot (basically its very hit or miss; isnt easy to recover from a miss, and the opponent can do almost nothing if you get the hit) but if mewtwo is a staple of your team, its moveset will be dictated by the other two pokemon (you wouldn't want ice beam if you have a PS/Av mamoswine on the team for example) For PvE, i'd recommend psychic on mewtwo as a second move (even with PS as the fast move its still best psychic attacker, and in practice i've preferred the dodge friendly nature rather than FTM'ing it ever time I want to raid for a near negligible DPS gain) as the other moves it has, while great at those types (aside from fire and debatably fighting) are done better by nonlegendaries

Giratina I haven't heard much about in masters, as in there there are other dragons (legacy dragonite and latios), its place to shine in ultra. Dragon breath or shadow claw /Dragon claw and ancient power are more or less the best set for it (shadow sneak also does well, but ancient power is somewhat preferred with outrage snorlax these days) but a second move isnt overly critical in my oppinion. I'd say go with giratina for the second move first, it is a much more reliable pokemon in its PvP league. If you have the luxury of enough candy for mewtwo, i'd add the second move to it just to have incase you need it/they rebalance PvP again

Sorry about the long response

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Speaking of PVE:

I'm not sure what kind of player you are- but since you maxed a mewtwo I work on the assumption that you are capable of maxing a few other species, or have already done so.

In the long run I see only two sets usable for mewtwo (ignoring psystrike), which are Confusion+Shadow Ball and Confusion+Psychic.

The first set puts Mewtwo firmly ahead of anything else for one particular typing (ghost+fighting or poison which only includes gengar family and Marshadow if anyone cares) but is also a very good generalist, though this part is less of a positive now.

The second set puts mewtwo as an uncontested Psychic specialist. You won't need it now, but it's never going to be replaced in your team of 6.

I have 4 maxed shadow ball mewtwos and will gradually give them the second attack psychic, because there is a better option for each of the other charge moves.

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Giratina is pretty awful in PvE, but it's a beast in PvP. It does well in the Master League, but where it really shines is in the Ultra League (where it pretty much dominates the meta).

My personal suggestion for Giratina is to go with Dragon Breath, Dragon Claw, Ancient Power.
Although Shadow Claw got an EPT upgrade, the higher damage output of Dragon Breath is more important in the majority of cases. Dragon Claw is great due to how spammy it is, and Ancient Power gives it good coverage against things that would resist dragon moves (and the chance at the atk/def stat buff).

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