Best defenders outside the tier list?
I got a abundance of stardust and have decided to power up some uncommon defenders for the fun of it.
So far I have decided to go with a 98% Golem with Mudslap+SE, so almost perfect in every sense and should easily be tier 4 at least when Rhydon is Tier 2.5.
I want to avoid pokemons like the ones that are in the in the current tier 4, since going for low CP high def/stam pokemns with no weaknesses is stupid as fuck since it ruins prestiging.
I got a 96% Razor Leaf/Sludge Bomb Venusaur as well I am thinking about, I don't have enough candy atm tho.
Answers
Golem is not that far off from Rhydon is my main point, I know it is not optimal but considering Rhydon is one of the most popular defenders in my area I just don't think it is that bad in the current CP-defined meta.
Muk is also one that have crossed my mind, but good luck maxing one out if you don't walk it like crazy. Not worth it sadly, but if I had the candy I would go for it.
The tier list is a good guide; but does not take into account counter diversity. Sticking a flareon or arcanine between to vapoeons, for example, is better than putting another grass-weak Mon there. Venusaur/victreebell between Rhydons is another example. Mons that counter the top big 7 counters and have relevant CP is the theme. This forces an attacker to either use a slot to deal with you curveball or accept a subpar matchup.
Im not so sure about that tho, I live in a water heavy area were myself and most other players seems to lack grass types, since I only got one good grass attacker (2000CP+ with good movset) I actually struggle with gyms that are stacked with Vaporeons for example.
I would much rather face 1x2500CP Venusaur, 1x2500CP Arcanine, 1x2500CP Lapras and 7x2500CP Vaporeons than just 10x2500CP Vaporeons for example since I simply can't counter all those Vaporeons.
I think you should try out different pokemon. My 2200 cp Venusaur and 1900 cp Tangela can clear almost an entire gym of Vapes and Rhydons with good dodging. A level 20 Tangela (1200-1300 cp) shouldn't have much trouble taking out any Vape or Rhydon, provided you dont eat a HP or SE. Victreebel, Vileplume, Bellossom, Eggy, even Sunflora shouldnt have much of an issue taking out 1 or 2 pokemon.
My only good grass is Exeggcutor with Confusion/Solar Beam at 2200CP, apart from that I only have one Tangela with a bad moveset/CP, a Venusaur with a defensive moveset and fairly low CP (~1700) and two bad Vileplumes with shitty movesets/CP. Closing in on a third Vileplume right now, if I don't decide to wait for a Bellossom. And I have pretty much none of the ones from Gen 2.
I recently got a Dragonite tho, which should help me out against those Vape stacked gyms.
