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What Pokemon would you like to see buffed/nerfed?

No, this isn't one of those "should I power up my 100% IV Mewtwo" questions. Rather, I'm interested in hearing what Pokemon do you think should be buffed/nerfed in the near future. Also, do you think we would ever see changes in these Pokemon? Let me know what you think!

Asked by CzarJG246 years 6 months ago

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Buff WigglyTuff
Nerf Rhydon stupid to be that high cp

I wouldn't mind Wigglytuff having a buff, maybe like 600 CP higher than it already is.

Rhydon has high CP but that doesn't mean much.

You'll be disappointed when Gen4 introduces Goofy-Rhydon with even higher CP. At least Rhydon looks nice. Rhyperior is an ugly bloated mess.

Rhyperior dosent matter. If Groudon stays un-nerfed it will stomp every other ground attacker

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But good point

Rhydon is the first pokémon ever, it deserves its place in the meta.

I'd like to see Lapras get buffed up again. They did Lapras wrong when they Nerfed them.

I definitely agree. Lapras used to be a beast before it got the nerf hammer :(

Agee at 100% (I was about to comment the same, lol) there was no reason to nerf Lapras that badly, at the start of the game she was the best defender since Machamp hasn’t that good moveset and Raikou and Tyranitar still wasn’t introduced, she doesn’t have preevolution but that doesn’t mean it should have so low cp

It wasn't a direct target at Lapras. Lapras was just the last to be affected by the change to the base stat formula.

Definitely Lapras. Also Mewtwo shouldn't be nerfed.

Yass! Make Lapras even greater again (cp and stats). And give it back Ice Shard.

Was gonna say the same thing, LAPRAS!

Also, Steelix could use a decent buff. I've got mine maxed out, but I feel the game is holding him back : /
Umbreon too, Aerodactyl, Clefable, Wigglytuff, Jynx, Cloyster for sure, don't forget Ditto! Oh and even Shuckle!

Lapras and Mewtwo!!

We need a stronger ice type....

Ive been meaning to make an account for a while and just did it today so i would like to say hello to everyone first off! Anyway, as far as this goes, since basically the beginning I've thought the Eeveelutions were way too strong or at least too easy to obtain for how powerful and meta relevant they are/were. It's not nearly as big as an issue now compared to when it felt you had to have an awesome vaporeon or two to be relevant. Really though, I only mainly mind Espeon and Vaporeon a bit at this point, so some slight nerfs to either would be pleasing. On the other end of the spectrum, Umbreon feels rather underwhelming for an Eeveelution, and could oerhaos use a bit of an attack buff to fit a tanky defender better? I have like a 98% ish one I've wanted to power up, but other Umbreon I've tested haven't faired as well as one may be led to believe. It has been kinda just sitting in the backburner for me as I power up some other mons . In general though, i would like to see some obscure low cp pokemon and defenders given more usefulness with how attack heavy/centralized the game is. Bulk in any form feels pointless unless you have some awesome attack to support it. I would love the novelty of pokemon like Wigglytuff, Umbreon, Wobbuffet, maybe even Shuckle lol. They could be like pokemon that don't necessarily need to deal much damage to keep out attackers, but are able to soak up time and resources nonetheless or time players out. This also could add a layer to gym composition, as certain sorts of these wall like pokemon could force players to bring glass cannons that may not match up well with other defenders. This along with a reworking of gym defending and its rewards would allow both ends of the role spectrum within pokemon feel rewarding. I hastily typed this as my thoughts came to me, so this message may be a bit frazzled and thanks for reading to my first post ever ?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
And welcome aboard.

Welcome! Enjoy your stay

They need to adjust their formulas for converting from main series base stats somehow so that balanced physical/special attackers aren't punished so hard, but pokemon that focus on one over the other can still shine.

buff laprus, starme, nido royalty, tentacruel, ampharos (a lot, why make it ultra rare otherwise?), nerf ye ole vaporean to oblivion, also flareon.

Every pokemon that's unused should be buffed or made useful in some way. In the originals, there are so many to choose from. Abilities are one of the reasons why they're used, but GO has none of that stuff. Yeah, Legendaries add a bit to the variety, but overall it just seems like the same old attackers needed. Defending was made pointless and it's the only reason why we get dex entries of stuff we rarely or never see, because it doesn't matter what you stick in there. Heck there's Shuckle. You can't even use it for anything, it's weak. If it could make a rare candy every 10km or something, that would actually make it useful.

I'd like to see a buff to Blastoise, Lapras, Nido King/Queen, Aerodactyl and Meganium. I feel like all starters should have a useful evolution.

I'm not sure anything needs a nerf.

all the classic OG's deserve a boost. Not sure why they got nerfed in the first place. Venus, Blast, and Char. They should be considered OP's of their class.

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-stat-change

My theory is that the starters are weak because they have Mega Evolutions

That's still many generations away though.

I'd like there be buffs to make things like Poison and Steel actually useful in the game. It would be quite nice if every kind of Attack was balanced to be more useful, rather than how some are exceptionally useful (Fighting, Rock and Ground, Electric, Water) and most are just situational (Dark, Ice, Fairy, Grass).

Not buffs to specific Pokémon, just a better balance to the game.

I like Wigglytuff.
I mean look at it, who doesn't.
It was my favorite prestiger once.
But buff it?
Buff one, nerf the other, i don't think that would make a real difference to the gameplay.
And that's what is needed imho.
A change of the gameplay.
So i would prefer if they do as already suggested and implement -all- the basestats and make them relevant.
And maybe increase the type effectiveness or something.
Or on the long run it might very well be boring to play with just the handfull of pokemon that will be top-tier at that time.
We need more diversity.

Thanks everyone! :) also, what about Gengar? Ghost in general sucks at this point, but that was true in the main series too. I haven't tried them really yet, mine both got sucker punch and focus blast -.-

Gengar got a huge buff with the change of Shadow Claw and Shadow Ball, the former then went legacy. The new Ghost attack ist okay, but it is nothing compared to the old one.

Buff my boy Blastoise up. But seriously, why are there Water Gun/Hydropoump moves shown on this website specifically with Blastoise in parentheses right after them?

The best I can recon is the unused moves are leftover placeholders, similar to the various Missingno, 'M, and other glitch pokemon in the early Pokemon games. "Water Gun (Blastoise)" is the name of the move, and no pokemon -- not even Blastoise -- has that move.

Not really a buff, but revert Mewtwo back to its original state and make it such that only one of each legendary can be used at a given time. You can still carry as many as you'd like, but you can't run 6 of them in your attack team. This accomplishes the goal of the nerf in a better way and also makes legendaries somewhat special/unique while not punishing people who weren't able to obtain 80 of them IMHO. (edited to add additional thoughts on why limiting the use of each legendary to 1 at a time is healthy for the game)

There are other things I wish were less/more powerful, but I don't like the idea of being inconsistent with the formula used to determine CP.

Exactly this ^
I don't want special cases apart from Slaking. If they are to change pokémon's CP, change the formula a bit.

Yup...exactly this.

They eventually brought Lapras in line as they didn't want an outlier, and then created another outlier.

Your idea of limiting to 1 of each for attacking lineup is spot on.

Suicune oh God suicune poor thing, the only thing legendary about it is how bad it is. it can't be used in defense and as an attacker he struggles to even make average.

Take that up with the base stats Game Freak gave to pokemon in the main series games and how Niantic converts those numbers to the Go base stats.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Vaporeon_(Pokémon)
Vaporeon
HP 130
Atk 65
Def 60
SAt 110
SDf 95
Spe 65

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Suicune_(Pokémon)
Suicune
HP 100
Atk 75
Def 115
SAt 90
SDf 115
Spe 85

Vaporeon's HP is significantly higher. Suicune makes up for it a little with higher defense, but having higher HP is better in Go because losing HP generates energy for charge attacks.

Vaporeon's special attack is higher than both Suicune's physical attack and special attack. Go's conversion formulas favor pokemon that excel in one stat with a large difference between physical and special stats, and they punish pokemon that have more average balanced stats.

The biggest one is Vaporeon. Why on earth is he stronger than Suicune? Vaporeon should be nerfed hard and Suicune should be buffed hard.

Vaporeon already has too low attack. Nerf to Vaporeon's HP stat would be fine. Not attack.
Suicune is the one that needs a buff.

I don`t agree that Vaporeon should be nerfed. That means, that a lot of stardust I spend to them will go to hell.
But, Suicune should be stronger then Vaporeon, I agree that it should be buffed hard.

I would like to see a buff on pretty much all uncommon mons, be it CP, or preferably moveset.I maxed out a Hitmontop - go ahead, judge me. He hit 1878. Can't even take down a 2500 Blissey!

Flareon, Jolteon and Espeon buffed to have higher DPS than the legendaries of their same type, but the same glass cannon-ness.

Honestly I don't think buffs/nerf will ever happen. The only "balance patches" the game has ever had was changing the formula they used, which buffed/nerfed pokemon but not in a direct way, and the single manual nerf to Mewtwo so he didn't completely break the metagame.

Make Mewtwo great again.

Buff Lapras again. Give it back all its stats and CP again. He is still a very rare pokemon to find.

I dont think any Pokemon should be nerfed. This game is already too easy.

Meh, Lapras was never meant to be that great of a Pokemon, maybe in gen 1 but nowadays it is just mediocre.

It's not fair to leave Lapras untouched and have people walk hundreds(!!) km with it, only to nerf it in the end again, because they are to fr*king stupid to do things right straight away.

Up till today it's one of those things in Pokemon Go I still feel miserable about. Bumping my ass out during vacation for those candies for absolutely nothing.

The "nerf" was not necessarily directed at Lapras. Last year in November was when the cp rebalance happened and every Pokemon had their stats changed except for Lapras because, at the time, there was the Lapras event going on in Japan. If Lapras had been affected by the rebalance at the time, it would have ruined the event so Niantic decided to postpone Lapras's "nerf" until gen 2s release.