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Vaporeon used Hydropump! [rant]

WTH!!!

By the time the trainer sees the text that the defending pokemon used Hydropump the damage is already done! The dodge window is exactly with the text box appears!

Similar to earthquake, the yellow flash is blended in with the attack so its hard to see when the wave hits the attacker.

Asked by Specter7 years 1 month ago
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You can see when Vaporeon is going to use a charge move. There is normally quite a pause between attacks and definitely enough time between the flash, the text and the move.

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That's not what I'm seeing. There is no pause, it just uses it. Before the update it was perfectly able to doge due to the 2-3 second pause but now after 5 quick attacks from both sides it just unleashes the charge move with no pause.

Ive even had a Vaporeon enter the battlefield and after it does 2 quick attacks it use Hydropump.

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I fought 2 Vapes today with HP and didn't find that...very odd.

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Calculate how many attacks the Vaporeon does before the charge move and dodge. That should work, at least for me.

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by pipjay 7 years 2 months ago

For me, the text for most charge moves has always appeared after the damage has been dealt. Only really long wind ups like Hyper Beam and Solar Beam have the text appear before the damage. I have to judge it based on time and changes in battle animations.

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You shouldn't look at the animation or the text...by this time it's too late.

Always look for the flash, and if you are an experienced gym battler, you can normally feel when a charge move is coming from any poke. there is normally a short pause which is different to the pause between quick attacks.

I must admit though, sometimes it can be tricky, and I do sometimes dodge a quick move mistaking for a charge, but better safe than sorry!

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This is exactly what I'm experiencing. The only moves that the attacker see coming are the onle with long windups like HyperBeam. For instance BodySlam, now comes out of nowhere and the AI seems to always wait till the trainer is in an attack animation then use the charge move.

The AI is getting smarter. I once went to use hyper beam and the AI used 2 BodySlams in a row to knock me out while the hyperbeam was charging.

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by Sebhes 7 years 2 months ago

Meanwhile I have never seen this flash light in any of my battles :P

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by DrAzzy 7 years 2 months ago

It's faster now, but very dodgable. The new gym mechanics demand competent play on the part of the attacker. This is an improvement. Unfortunately, there still doesn't seem to be a good answer to vaps that isn't a glass cannon.

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Exeggutor still stands up pretty well, unless it's defensive IV is particularly low. HP is definitely more of an issue now, but my better Ex's can still take at least 1 undodged HP shot and keep on truckin'.

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Things can sometimes get glitchy, especially if the connection is wavering. I've seen myself get blasted by big attacks after seeing no words and no animation. In those cases now, when I see an inordinate pause with no prior warning, I just start dodging.

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There is a flash bug with certain mons / attacks where at certain times of the battle there's no flash or any text or anything. It's not common but I've experienced it a couple times since the update.

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