GamePress

Tips for becoming a player who can solo T3's?

So I didn't start this game until July, but I'll hit level 30 soon. I'm finally getting to a point where I find relatively high level mons (esp now with weather), and once I get 30 I can track down high IV ones. I have all the Gen 2 legendaries but not any others.

Going forward however, I'd like to be able to solo T3's. I dont live in a city center, so getting in on T4/5 raids is rather difficult, but I still really need rare candies and TMs, so I'd like to get to a point where I could reasonably solo most T3 raids as a method of getting those and catching good pokemon presuming relevant mons stay in the T3 category.

Up until this point I haven't really invested in much as far as stardust goes. A few low IV dragonites I've since transferred, a 96 Gyarados, a Blissey with a perfect attack IV, and a 93 Tyranitar. I'm almost at 300k stardust. (christ where did the rest go) I also have a level 20 100 Alakazam, and all my legendaries have decent movesets. Still, I'm very far from soloing any T3's.

Do you guys have any tips for getting to a point where I can? Once I'm 30 I could hunt high IV mons but it's unlikely many of them will be high level with the exact best moveset. I could instead, or rather additionally, hunt down high level mons and form teams for each boss? Use the high level ones to get the raids done with low investment, while powering up and TM'ing high IV mons as I track them down and get the TMs I need?

Not sure if that's the best method or not, but I'd appreciate any tips.

Asked by edensiris6 years 4 months ago
Report

Answers

the ranking on this site of the difficulty level of Level 3 solos is accurate. https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/tier-3-raid-solo-guide

Of the current batch, forget Ninetales, impossible without perfect lineup, though weather now makes a big difference. Machamp is totally doable because there are several great psychic attackers. And Machamp is VITAL to beating TTar, Blissey, Snorlax, Lapras. Basically you want and need Machamps!! A perfect Alakazam will be worth powering up, make sure he has double psychic moves. Eevees around here are very common, when you find a high IV one start walking with it, do 10k (2 candies received) and make sure you then evolve it, while it is still your buddy, during the day, that gets you a great Espeon. A double psychic Eggy can be used, Mewtwo obviously. You need a full lineup because Alakazam and Espeon do huge damage but they are glassy. My last one I still had 25 seconds on the clock, but I had a 3400 Mewtwo in there.
Gengar is easy, again using psychic types and of course TTar.

Up
0
Down

^this. The solo raid guide is really good! It does only list the best counters and there may be some close seconds. For example, Poliwrath with DP could be a viable alternative to Machamp in a porygon raid. Have used a level 22.5 myself in a 4 attacker victory. So, Edensiris pay attention to the weakness/resistance chart and not just the supreme, Good, and tanky counters list. You may have good counters from a type effectiveness standpoint if if you don’t have the best...and porygon in particular can be beaten a lot of different ways.

Up
0
Down

Jealous about your 100IV Alakazam. I still want one of those. Its my favorite Pokemon.By all means max it out. Future Sight should be your charge move. Either Psycho Cut or Confusion is fine for fast move (confusion does more damage, psycho cutt allow you to get to the charge move quicker and makes it easier to dodge charge moves). The above advice is good. Get a good Espeon with Confusion and Future Sight. Machamps are fairly easy with multiple good psychic Pokemon.

Powered up Exeggutors with double grass moves are the key to beating Omastar.

I know I'm level 39 but I think Ninetales is doable if, and only if, the weather is right. I'm 1 for 2 in those. Nowhere close without the right weather. With 20 seconds left with optimal weather for its counters - 3 Double Rock Golems.& 2 Stone Edge Tyranitars

Porygon is fairly easy.

My biggest challenge is Alakazam. I only get the job done about a third of the time, and I try whenever I can). What I learned is that its charge makes a big difference. Confusion/Focus Blast is the hardest to beat, though I've done it once - MewTwo (with shadow ball), 2 double ghost Gengars, Scizzor (double bug), Houndoom (Snarl/Foul Play), and dodging of cits charge move. No matter what the Alakazam is (hope for Psycho Cut fast move) it takes Shadow Balls to get ahead of the clock. Tyranitars make all but the Focus blast Alakazam doable, but they only maintain the pace. Some shadow ball Gengars must be mixed in to beat it.

3 general things to remember
1) you are auto-selected the best offensive/defensive combos, but that doesn't always work when its a race against the clock. Sometimes you have to sub in the pokemon who attack best, even if they are more vulnerable.
2) it only requires one raid pass to fight the same boss multiple times, so as long as you have enough revives/potions fight the boss multiple times slightly tweeking your lineup
3) if its a moderately tanky pokemon you can should absorb the charge moves (as long as they aren't the achilles heel of your pokemon) since the clock is always a factor.

Up
0
Down

You might post a screen shot of your top 12 by CP or just tell us what you have there (if you are 29, than 93 Ttar may be ~3000 but is it B/C or B/SE or maybe it’s still ~2500 with IT/FB??? You may get some good leads along the lines of “you can probably already do porygon” or “find an exeggcute ~L30 and evolve it regardless of IV and then use it and X and Y and Z and you’ll be able to solo ...”

Up
0
Down

Gengar is the easiest t3 to solo imo. If that 93 iv tyranitar is 15 attack, I would invest dust into it. It would help a lot with gengar and especially alakazam. Alakazam would be on the harder side of the fence to solo. U would need to be higher level and need very good pokemons or high level banette with sc/sb against pc/fb. For gengar, I would go find level 30 35 eevee in the wild and walk them to turn them into espeon. Confusion futuresight is the moveset u want but it's not a 100 percent must if u don't have tm. U can also use those espeon for machamp raids. Level 34plus espeon with 15 attack hits a breakpoint for confusion against machamp and gengar. No dust needed on espeon to solo gengar s and machamps. U can solo omastar with level 30 plus double grass exeg. Go find level 30 35 eggs in the wild and evolve. U need bs/solar for moveset. U can use other grass.types too but eggs are 50 candy to evolve and best grass. No dust needed here either. Scyther is very easy. Use flareon from the wild, double rock golems if u have them or ur tyranitar if it has bite stone edge. Porygon is very easy too. U can use.machamps from solo raids or u can use ur espeon army if u want to.

Up
0
Down

Gengar - 5 or 6 espeon. Can add tyranitar with bite.

Machamp - 6 espeon.

Omastar - 6 egg. Needs bs/solar.

Porygon - 6 espeon.

Scyther - 2 double rock golems. Or 6 flareon. B/se tyranitar is good here.

Alakazam - only one u need to invest dust into .tyranitar is mvp here. Having 2 with b/c would help a lot. Can use one scizor here with double bug. Can use 1 or 2 gengar with shadowball. Mewtwo with pc/sb if u are lucky to have one. 30 plus Bannette.

Up
0
Down

Gengar is even better against Gengar than Espeon. Problem without Tyranitar or Rhydon is fainting out.
Machamp - 6 Espeon requires a lot of dodging against non-CC or very high levels. Lugia/Dragonite/Ho-Oh help with staying alive.
Omastar - Victreebel/Sceptile/Vileplume/Venusaur at L30 with double grass is adequate to fill out if lacking 6 Eggy.
Alakazam - highly moveset dependent, PC/FB is easy to do with 6 L30 Gengars, no dust needed. Confusion movesets require Tyranitars or obscene amounts of dust and a lot of dodging. Scizor needs to be above 30 to have adequate DPS. Houndoom is a decent mon you forgot to list.

Up
0
Down

Yup yup u are right. I didn't add gengar in gengar raids in there cuz of dust usage unless he finds a good high level gastly in the wild. Pretty rare where i live, so is houndour. I forgot to mention dodging most or all charge attacks with a line up of glass cannons lol. I agree with ur post for sure, very good info here.

Up
0
Down

by zap 6 years 4 months ago

Don't stress about it if you can't do them. There's nothing particularly rewarding about soloing when you're spending so many resources towards a short-term goal, rather than a long-term goal.

Up
0
Down

If you can't do group raids, the reward of being able to do tier 3 raids instead of using your passes on tier 2 is huge. Some of the pokemon in tier 3 are also quite valuable.

Up
0
Down

It's not just a matter of doing raid 3 levels, it's the fact that you're spending resources on specific R3 whereas you could be focusing on the bigger picture. It's a waste in my opinion. I doubt it's that difficult to simply get another person to do a R3 battle and strategically save some resources.
I feel like this whole solo thing is just a self-indulging "me too" thing.

Up
0
Down

The usefulness of certain T3 bosses (Zam, Champ, maybe gengar) should speak for itself. Champs are almost necessary for substantially contributing to many of tougher raid bosses (more than half the T4s, particularly the desirable and usually rare Ttar) and for dealing with the only (relatively) difficult gym defenders, additionally if your local biome and/or weather patterns don't really include many machops, the raid is your best source.

Also, the main reason to invest resources at all is to maximize your contribution to any raid you partake in (solo or not), since your premier balls and reward bundles are conducive to how much damage you do. And if you solo a raid, you are guaranteed the maximum damage bonus since you are the only contributor.

Yes, it usually is not too difficult to find enough help to defeat raids below T4 (though people in very low population areas may not find it so easy), but if you can't guarantee that help is on your team, or if that help happens to be vastly more effective than you, then you may lose out on possible rewards.

Further, it's not as if some of the teams you optimize to solo certain T3 bosses are completely useless outside of that particular raid, a solo Alakazam team (many of which work for gengar too) is basically what you want to face Mewtwo, and they'll also help for whenever/if Mew and Celebi happen, or even Lugia returns. If the other legendary birds come back, the golems you'd bring to a scyther raid would get some use again. And (though they aren't particularly desirable mons themselves) the T4 Nidos, Poliwrath, and Victreebel are all weak to the psychic and/or flying types you'd bring to a Champ raid.

Up
0
Down

Learn to use the raid analysis feature on pokebattler.com, and create a free account which will let you input up to 50 of your pokemon. Then, you can see how close you are to being able to do various raids, and which pokemon are the most efficient attackers for the various bosses. Also, learn how to use quick-move breakpoints to allocate your resources (candy and stardust) efficiently.

I'd suggest picking a single T3 raid boss to focus on, and try to optimize your team for that boss. Porygon and Scyther are by far the easiest. Fighting types (especially Machamp) are strong against Porygon, as are Espeon and Alakazam. Rock types (especially Golem) are very strong against Scyther. When you can do one of the bosses, move on to optimizing a team for the next one.

Also, try to make sure you use your free raid pass every day. Until you can do some T3's, do T2's or even T1's, if it means not letting a raid pass go to waste. You'll still have a small chance of getting a TM, and you'll likely get some useful rare candy and golden razzes.

Up
0
Down