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i've noticed a big divide in my local group (about 500~ of us in the discord) and it seems everyone's gotten to one of two sides in regards to togekiss nd fairy wind, either:
1) Togekiss not getting fairy wind is the final nail in the hopes of ever getting one in the game/will be given to sylveon long after we gave up wanting a fairy fast move

or 2) much like with metagross, its best move will be saved for a 3 hour event window

Which side do you take after? Personally im with eventual CD because i'm hopeful but wont be shocked if we dont get it

Asked by MetagrossMaxis5 years 4 months ago
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by milkz 5 years 4 months ago

I'd love a Togepi CD, but given how it's shiny has already been released, it does seem pretty unlikely. But Niantic does what Niantic wants, so who knows.

I think the most likely path for Togekiss to get Fairy Wind, is to put it in a raid day like Gengar. A 3 hour raid day for Togekiss with Fairy Wind sounds pretty good! I'm personally just hoping they update the GameMaster and just allow us to TM it to Fairy Wind but we'll see. I do think, it will be in the game soon though.

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A raid day does seem more likely than CD. plus raids days are just plain more fun imo. I'm still gonna be holding onto my shiny togetic for the time being.

When you think about it, niantic making a togekiss fairywind raid day probably would rake in so much money, look what everyone did for lick gengar, and SA moltres, niantic might want to get money out of people but I know a lot of people would gladly pay for extra passes to raid something like that.

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Togekiss has a 1% catch rate in the gamemaster file. Judging from that they might forget to even fix the catch rates and cause frustration.

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Also, Niantic would need to figure out how to deal with Sinnoh Stones in a CD. I'm sure they could figure out something, but it would require more work on their end, making it less likely.

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Personally, I would love a community/raid day for the Togepi line, especially if it got Fairy Wind as the event-specific move. That said, I'm not sure how likely it would be for the following reasons.

Togepi is a baby Pokemon, which have only been available via hatches up until this point. Having it spawn in the wild for a CD would be a very drastic shift.

Togekiss requires an item to evolve, making it an unlikely raid boss candidate (as we've never had a raid boss that normally requires an item to evolve into).

Historically, community/raid days have brought new shinies into the game. Since the Togepi line's shinies are already in the game, this would be another potential strike against it.

However, Niantic has shown in the past that they won't always stick to patterns we've observed. Anything can change. So while I don't think a community/raid day is likely for the Togepi line, I wouldn't rule it out either.

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After reading some points about it, I think there's a moderate chance that it gets a raid day, but it will take a long time as right now it requires a heavily limited evolution item.

Even thinking there's a decent chance it gets a fairy fast move later on, I think I might evolve my 100% Togetic right away. It's a defender and a raid anchor, to make it as a top DPS attacker it would need an absolutely broken fast move. Hidden Power is great for defense and there's less need for anchoring after the rework, so for me personally there doesn't seem much reason to wait. I won't gain anything that great if I waited for it to get a fairy fast move and I'm actively giving up the best Machamp counter you can drop into gyms after Blissey if I wait.

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As we saw from haryama top DPs isnt always as important if theres more DTO to be had, enough so to make a difference, which togekiss definitely does.

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"Saw" is the key word there. Hariyama saw use because its higher TDO could help make up for Machamps that may have fainted out before getting off an extra Dynamic Punch. Post-rebalance, Machamp's TDO actually pushes past Hariyama in some instances. The more interesting bit is the winners/losers article written here that touches on Breloom being in better shoes than it previously was.

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Hariyama is close to the top DPS, Togekiss is not. TDO only becomes important if it can prevent a re-lobby and now with most top DPS mons becoming significantly tankier, the possibilities of an anchor making a difference get slimmer.

And remember that everything said, Togekiss only has good TDO against specific movesets, which for gen 4 dragons limits its use to strictly against DM Palkia. I do not see anything here worth waiting months or a year for.

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by Ruxbon 5 years 4 months ago

I can imagine a Togetic raid day with each raid rewarding a Sinnoh Stone with Togetic guaranteed to get fairy wind as an exclusive move if evolved, for example.

The only problem to that is the amount of candies to evolve each, so it's probably not going to happen. Maybe Togekiss raid day, then? IDK, there's also the chance of the move never being released as well. It certainly is a troublesome situation to figure out.

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