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Should we walk a couple of Eevee just in case?

After Eevee's CD move announcement, some information has sprung saying that the evolutions will also keep last resort.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/955lww/according_to_tpci_any_eeveelution_evolved_during/

This sounds odd. As far as I read last resort is a normal type move, so it wouldn't match any of eevelution types. It wouldn't have STAB and would be of little use. In addition, we don't have any control over some evolved forms unless Niantic make an exception on CD.

We can only control how to evolve umbreon and espeon. That's the reason I'm considering walking two Eevee in advance, just in case these are not unfounded rumours this time... Any thoughts?

Asked by GiardinoNI5 years 7 months ago
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by hkn 5 years 7 months ago

The keyword is "opportunity cost". By walking two Eevee, you are losing out on four candy for a more valuable species. Is that sacrifice (considering the risk that the rumours may be unfounded) acceptable to you?

What are the potential gains? I doubt that Umbreon, even with an incredible move, could threaten Tyranitar. Do you have enough Psychic-type attackers? Imagine what Espeon (already tied with Alakazam as the best non-legendary Psychic-type for all generations) could be with a special move.

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Looks like the special move is just normal typing though? I'm very curious what the plan is for the evolutions, because I doubt I'm going to want a normal type move on my espeon if I'm trying to round out a psychic team - or for any reason for that matter...

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Well, It's not a sacrifice. There's nothing I'm walking cause I need it.
The gains are a collector pokemon, unless the move would match type to have STAB.

All of this is so confusing that it doesn't make any sense to me. But the rumour comes from pokemon official site...

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Since you do not need more candy for any specific rare species, go ahead and walk those Eevees!

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The exclusive move is for Eevee only. Its evolutions won't have any exclusive moves.
I had hoped that we would get more moves so that Jolteon, Vaporeon and the rest might become slightly better, but it seems we won't. Unless of course Niantic want to surprise us in the last minute, but I doubt it.

As for control over which evolution to get I do think Niantic might change something on that day so we either can use the name trick once more or every evolution is random.
Let's not forget that Umbreon can only be obtained during "night" (not counting the name trick) and CD takes place during the day.
I very much doubt we're only suppose to get four out of five evolutions.

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"And its Evolutions aren't about be left out of the fun—any Eevee that evolves between the start of Saturday's Community Day until the end of Sunday's will know Last Resort in its evolved form."

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I wish they could have written that in the in-game news.

Also; "and each Eevee you catch will earn you triple the usual Stardust" makes it sound as if only Eevee gives you extra dust.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the news.

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"The Asia-Pacific region: August 11 and 12, 2018, from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. JST"

For me, https://pokemongolive.com/events/community-day/ shows AUG 11・12, 2018 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM SINGAPORE STANDARD TIME.

Singapore is only one hour behind Japan. That is rather Farfetch'd.

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by aSp 5 years 7 months ago

We in the Asia Pacific region will be sure to test everything, and make all the mistakes with our evolves while testing, and post results so that the other regions around the world are able to start the event fully prepared with real and accurate information so they can make informed decisions for their Community Day.
...at least we will be better prepared for Sunday.

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Yep, we Asian lab rats have to figure it out again for everyone else. LOL. No worries everyone is now confused about what is going on in Eevee CD ... maybe it will all be clear by SUNDAY morning.

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Who knows, maybe they make it that Last Resort changes to the type of the Eeveelution? I know it‘s highly unlikely, but a possibility at least if you ask me

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Personally I find it the worst community day... The special move is a normal type move that nobody knows, with no stab on evolutions, and that will make them just generalists but weaker than some Hyper Beam mons... Why instead of this not making free all evolutions for exemple, with no tricks needed to get umbreon or espeon? OR maybe introduce the 4th gen evolutions? It would have been better and more interesting and useful for sure...

I had ready 10-12 Eevees for the community day, but I won't evolve them for sure during the community day... Better to have normal Jolteons, Vaporeons or Flareons, that to have them evolved with a normal type move...

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With two days and two fourth generation evolutions, they still might do something like that. We don't know until it happens.

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In my opinion walking two Eevees for speculation isn't that big of a commitment, but everyone has different criteria for what is a lot of walking.

As for the move, Last Resort would lack both STAB and SE, which amount up to a 1.68 multiplier when combined. That's how much better the move would have to be than the current best charge move of each Eeveelution for it to be of any use. I checked with DPS/TDO and normal-type carbon copies of HC, BB or FP don't cut it. HC is the best one, here's how its copy ranks against a single weak target for each:
Vaporeon: #3 after WG/AT
Jolteon: #6 after TS/T
Flareon: #8 after E/FB
Espeon: #3 after ZH/FS
Umbreon: #5 after FA/DP (easily ranks as #1 defensive move against Machamp though)

Conclusion: To be relevant, Last Resort needs to either change type to match the pokemon its on or be on a whole new level compared to the current best charge moves in the game.

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Tx for the insight! Is it possible that Niantic has planned some trick that the move will change type or would this be unprecedented compared with the main game.

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Unprecedented from the main series. Last Resort can actually be learned by a number of Pokemon and remains normal type for all of them. What makes it special for Eevee is that it has a signature Z-Move that requires it to know Last Resort, Extreme Evoboost. Is this a hint at Z-Moves being implemented eventually? Who knows.

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Tx, I assume it would be even more unprecedented that the evolved Eeeve forms get access to any Z-move.

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Every single move has a Z-move, so every single Pokemon has access to Z-moves. A small handful of Z-moves are specific to individual species though. Some examples are Eevee, Pikachu, A-Raichu, Mimikyu, and each of the Gen 7 starter evos. Eevee's evolutions do not have any unique Z-moves associated with them.

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I wonder if this means Niantic is expecting us to sit on evolved forms with last resort until Z-moves are implemented?

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The evolved forms wouldn't get access to Extreme Evoboost. Following main series convention Last Resort would give them Breakneck Blitz, the Z-move that all damage-dealing normal type attacks turn into.

Either way, it's possible this may be a nod to Z-moves ///somewhere/// down the line, in the same vain that Ampharos learning Dragon Pulse for a community day move was a nod to its mega evolution. There's a lot of logistics to be worked out in both cases, as megas and Z-moves require mechanics nowhere in Go at the moment.

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Are you thinking of the type-specific Z moves? If so, if Last Resort is made type specific, could they use such type Z moves in the future?

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Also keep in mind that unless you have multiple accounts, walking a couple eevees may not help. The walked eevee must be evolved while it is still your buddy. Whether you can change buddies and then bring one back to still have a controlled evolve it is not known to me. Not to mention, most places have their community day in the day. Apparently, The Asia-Pacific is an exception this go around apparently which could be interesting for them if one was to have an eevee walked and read for the daylight and they then walked their ass off with another eevee for when it became night...
My two cents on special move...I highly doubt the the move will be the same for each evolution...That would make no sense and simply make them look dumb and lazy. Without trying to give them too much credit, I don't see them making that gross mistake.

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You can change buddies in between and still evolve a previously walked Eevee to Espeon/Umbreon, as long as you fill all the criteria. The status of having been walked stays just like with Feebas, it just isn't displayed the same way. The official text on pokemon.com states that any Eevee evolved between the start of Saturday's CD and the end of Sunday's CD will know the move.

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Get the two shinies first ;)

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Wouldn't this make it impossible to get Umbreon with Last Resort unless they change the evolution method for CD? Since it has to be evolved at night and the 3 hour windows are during the day?

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Any Eevee evolved from the start of CD on Saturday until the end of CD on Sunday will know the move - not just in the three hour windows.

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