I don't know if I'd outright replace it but you could swap between the two of them if you can feel out whatever the charge move is ahead of time. Gengar beats out Weavile against Moonblast Cresselia while Weavile has much more longevity against Future Sight and Aurora Beam at a rough cost of 18% DPS (Gengar ~18DPS -> Weavile ~15DPS).
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replace my Sc gengar with weavile?
Ive been looking through my pokemon to try improving my cresselia (and really ghost/psychic take down general use ) team and I have a maxed level pre lucky buff lucky SC gengar, 10 atk/hp, 14 defense. I know SC Gengar's good DPS, but I was wondering if swapping out for a 91%, 15 atk, weavile would be better, not being weak to that its meant to counter and such
The rest of my cresselia teams 3 shadow ball mewtwo and 2 double dark tyranitar.
I mostly trio/four man cresselia raids with others who are significantly better equipped, ie teams of 6 SC gengar with significantly better iv's, 6+ Sb mewtwo, and the like, so I know the SC gengar I have isnt required to get a head of the clock.
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Most of the time it just recommends my metagross and SD tyranitar (seriously wish there was some recommended setting to put it to best offensive match up) regardless of movesets. So I really cant feel out the movesets before hand without entering a battle just to check the move.
The longevity was what I was thinking about, I know how a pokemon lasting longer, thereby getting off more charge moves raises DPS as Gengar's weak to confusion and psycho cut while weavile always resists those.
SE or not I wouldn't worry about Psycho Cut. Cresselia's attack is so low that even Gengar can sponge some Confusions, they aren't nearly as devastating as Mewtwo's.
Regardless of how long it lasts Gengar's DPS is generally higher. It has more optimal moves between Shadow Claw having higher DPS than Weavile's Feint Attack and with Shadow Ball being an all around better attack than Foul Play. Both of these better moves come off a higher attack stat to boot. I imagine if Weavile came out on top in terms of DPS it would be due to Gengar failing to launch a Shadow Ball where Foul Play would have made contact, a case that will vary from battle to battle.
I guess with Metagross resisting all of Cresselia's charge moves (doubly resisting Future Sight) it's not easy to feel it out. I've only done about three Cresselia raids, I don't remember if other things of mine get sprinkled in the recommended or not.
Thanks for the info about the shadow ball, Ill run a few more battles with gengar, see if I notice it go down with shadow ball full but cant use it.
Also, I wonder how long it will take for people to start hating metagross for the auto select just like it did with aggron/steelix and the like. (this is a joke, but we all know how some people can get when auto select doesnt pick their preferred counters)
With your partner using squad like that ( 6 Gengar and 6 Mewtwo shadow ball ) to use depending on Creselia charge move, your current team is good enough for trio. Changing to weavile probably can give some longetivity if you feel you have too much fainted pokemon especially against future sight, altough with only one Gengar i doubt that, other counter in your squad is strong enough to take that Futuresight. It is your partners that have to switch from Gengar to Mewtwo
I use same 6 Gengar and 6 Mewtwo SB Max. My 2nd acc 6 Gengar and 2 Mewtwo 4 TTar at lv 35-40, so when my Gengar is not in the recomended list i ask the other trainer if he/she have some good counter beside Gengar.
That is for trio, for 4 or 5 trainer, i am not paying much attention. I can carry my team mate so far.
I'd replace the Tyranitar rather than the gengar. Your allies are bringing in the heat. You shouldn't leave them feeling like you're a casual when you're capable of sporting a stronger team.
Downgrading your gengar could also drop you under 20% individual damage and cost you a ball in the 4 man, especially if any of those allies are best friends with eachother and not you. Or if you're already only getting 2 individual balls, upgrading the Tyranitar could net you a third.
