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Rayquaza question

I caught a 15/15/10 Rayquaza yesterday. 89%. My question is, how much does that-5 on df hurt rayrray? I know I could catch a better one but I'm just curious at the moment

Asked by Shadeslayer6 years 2 months ago
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Unfortunately, not by much. Defense ivs are minor compared to hp or atk ivs.

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Most people put health rather the def last but that aside the answer is not much. I was a bit disappointed to get a 11/15/15 (91% 11 attack) rayquaza so put it, a 15/15/15, a 15/11/15 and a 15/15/11 into pokebattler and found that the all performed very similarly. My conclusion with rayquaza was his ivs barely matter at all, though i should have put a 10/10/10 in to define the bottom.
There is three plis weeks though so id bewair of jumping the gun on power up.

Because of rayquazas very high attack a couple of points of attack barely shift his damage output, because of its very low defense a couple of points of defense actuallly make a noticable differerence to its bulk in sims. The outcome seeming to be that all the stats are worth about the same for this mon and you only get a very small drop in performance from missing a couple of stat points in any of them.

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Maybe you missed it, but Shadeslayer use SAD instead of ADS, so he has 10 on defence.

> a couple of points of defense actuallly make a noticable differerence to its bulk in sims.
>The outcome seeming to be that all the stats are worth about the same for this mon and you only get a very small drop in performance from missing a couple of stat points in any of them.

So, noticable differerence or very small drop in performance?

Also if you do not pay for your account at pokebattler, be aware that they make much less accurate simulations for your mons than for 15/15/15 mons. So it is good for estimation, but not that reliable when you trying to catch minuscule difference between 15/11/15 and 15/15/11

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the first sentence pointed out the unorthodox order.

what i meant was usually defense makes bugger all difference and in some scenarios you can get increased performance from a low defense esp for bulky mons.

in this case because of rayquazas relative lack of bulk it does make a difference and the result is that all the stats end up worth about as much as each other in simulations with each deficit having scenarios that the perform well in. The overall end point though is that performance difference were likely to be less an issue then your network lag for anything with a half decent IV. So the only thing to worry about is buyers regret on the assumption with 3 weeks left that you are likely to get a better one.

so bellow is "unknown moveset" which averages the outcomes
top is 15/15/15 (ads) then 15/11/15 then 11/15/15 then 15/15/11. Note there is a small gap from perfect then all 3 91%ers are very close in ttw and power.

hence the conclusion is that with this mon the distribution preference of A>H>D is broken and all three are very similar and in general the higher the overall IV the better. and for me at least if i get no better one the 11/15/15 distro is hardly a disaster.

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As an example, for powering up Kyogre I compared a maxed 15/12/15 and 15/15/12 against Groudon raid boss defender (both with HP). They have almost identical performance.

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The thing about IVs is that

- most of the time they don't matter;
- when they do matter, they matter a lot

No thanks to the rounding of everything in the game...

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