Question to community
Lets be honest, how many spoofers visit the site here?
I just found out my co-worker is a spoofer, been wondering how he got all those stacks of the newest Mons. I tried spoofing for like 5min on his phone, not exactly my cup of tea so to each his own. Curious how many spoofers are here.
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There's some people near me who obviously do.
Saturday morning there's one guy who had *all* the local gyms filled with 3500 CP Salamences. Same guy who had all the gyms full off capped near-perfect 4500-CP slakings the day after they came out.
There's no way they did that legit. I'm just amazed PoGo doesn't have a method to monitor this.
To be fair, there are people here who had 3500 CP Salamence and Metagross they day after because they drove around all night hunting Bagon and Beldum with Pinap Berries using the local scanner map. Don't get me wrong, I consider that cheating also, but I'm just saying that people grinding rare and 100% Pokemon fast even without spoofing.
To me, it takes the satisfaction out of encountering something rare or 100% if you know exactly where to fnd it, as well as the level, gender, IV and moveset. For me, hatching or catching perfect or rare Pokemon is a huge thrill and I would never want to change that.
Considering I bike everywhere, sometimes up to 6km one way, I feel fine using a map. So I have help finding pokemon, so what? I still need to physically pedal through the cold to get there and still catch it, that's not enough?
Spoofing on the other hand, lol well, that lazy bunch of cheaters just suck.
Everything they have done, from catching the whole unown alphabet, to having 3 of the shiny Aron family, nothing is impressive. I mean, absolutely everything they have done, I see as worthless. Your collections impress maybe some of the ants on the ground, and perhaps they stroke your ego that you're some sort of master. You're not. I find the LV 29 parents who manage to catch a single legendary more impressive and accomplished than you.
Their ratio is still the same as any other player's. Consider that even going to a nest every day doesn't mean you automatically earn a higher percentage of shinies than a normal player. Maybe a spoofer could feasibly get more, but they would still need to catch a proportionally higher ratio of pokemon in general just to get said shinies, even if they do so from their couch.
Closest to spoofing would be how my phone GPS drifts to the middle of nowhere on rare occasions. I was like Jesus when the GPS sent me over a lake. Also that one time when my character got sent to some part of the city I've never been to and watched my character make its way home from there. Was quite a sight.
People do all sorts of things in all facets of life to 'gain an advantage'
For me, the 'He started it' excuse doesn't make it acceptable for others to replicate questionable actions.
What you are willing to do, and how far you are prepared to go, is what will define you - whether it is a game or anything else.
Sure. I'm a decent person. I donate to charity. I shovel my neighbors drive for free. I call my mom. My morals are defined, everyone likes me. I also work 50+ hours a week and live miles from the nearest pokestop.This is a game you play on your phone, not a religion. Get off your high horse brotha, and don't question my morality. Christ...
I think aSp may be coming from the “right or wrong view point” from a gym dominance perspective, rather than questioning your morality as a person.
As you know, although spoofing has the potential to greatly improve raid experiences (such as those that live in rural areas), it has the potential, when abused*, to neglect players in certain areas from having an equal opportunity (as other players of opposites living in the same area) to collect coins. Not being affected by it personally, I have read stories about inidividuals that still have difficulty receiving their daily max due to the spoofers in their community. While since the new gym rework it has been easier for the overall population as a whole to obtain coins, there are some that are still negatively impacted by the abuse of spoofing.
I am not affected by spoofing so my stance is relatively neutral. Seeing from your post you live in a very inconvenient area to interact with the game which I understand and don’t fault you for, but my purpose with this post is to shed light on how spoofing can be seen by some as undesirable, hence which is why he may have replied “defines who you are”
Right on. I'm a 47 yr old engineer, and I can only play a few minutes a day. There is no way I can compete without it, I learned that early when red team destroyed me in minutes when I did walk somewhere. I don't have tons of maxed out mons, just trying to stay in the game. It's not that big of an advantage
I have an opinion...not a high horse.
Now learn to deal with a different opinion - it will make your life easier.
If you need to make this a debate about morals, then I can play.
Personally, I don't choose to define my morals by some of my actions, and then use my 'good moral credit' to do some things that go against myself, as an offset.
If you need to make it about 'moral standing' then I personally believe my moral standing is based on everything in entirety - not a credit system I can draw against when I want to do something dodgey.
...but as long as what others do, and what they are happy to do doesn't effect me or mine then I really don't care - but I am entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours.
Haven't, aren't and never will.
What's the fun in just sitting on your fat arse and doing fuck all? The game was made to be out playing, looking for those little creatures, grinding etc.
It might not be "fun" when the weather is shit, but that's part of the challenge. I've been out in freezing cold weather with snow blowing all around me and my beard being frozen solid, just to spin some Pokestops, catch a few Pokemon and hatch some eggs.
Once there was a massive downpour of rain that left me more wet than when I've been swimming in a lake. There was also thunder and lightning around me, which wasn't exactly safe, so I had to run home.
There's simply no adventures like that when you spoof ;)
Luckily there's not a lot of spoofing in my area and nobody here likes people who do it.
P.S. I do however think that the game early on sent me away to England a few times. I've heard of drifting, but that was insane. Never had any Pokemon spawn however, so I couldn't catch any to see exactly where I was.
I see no point in spoofing, as the travel and social interaction is what makes the game fun for me. Nevertheless, I am occasionally tempted to due to GPS glitches and regionals (especially Torkoal).
As for SGPokeMap, it enhances my experience, by encouraging me to explore different areas to grab rares and strike up conversations with complete strangers who are doing the same.
At that point, if you put in so much extra work and resources just to play a game in a way contrary to It's intention, why don't you just play something else? There are so many free games out there that you can play a couple minutes a day that require no extra steps to work and do not negatively affect anyone else playing.
Level 34 started about a month after release. Usually play about an hour a day while I walk the dog
