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Power-up Question

Background:
Recently I maxed several legendaries and useful ones with legacy moves or such. After the earth day event I still ended up above my hoarding quota and thinking of new possibilities.
Currently: Kyogre(100), Groudon(98), Tyranitar(100), Rayquaza(100), Dragonite(98), Raikou(98), Machamp(98), Machamp(karate chop 90+), Venusaur(Frenzy plant 100) are maxed.
Rock Throw Omastar, Shadow Claw Gengar, Moltres, Sceptile and 3 other Machamps are at 37
For rest I get almost everything usable with duplicates at 30-35 except for Metagross(don't have one yet), Ho-oh(could only catch one due to hectic workload back than), and Suicune

Candidates I'm thinking of are:

Mewtwo - I will most likely power-up and max one or two eventually but not sure about the ones I currently have
14a/13d/12s first one I got, I powered up to 30 just to test
14a/13d/14s weather boosted, currently have shadow ball
14a/15d/13s lv20, currently with psychic
in the simulations all and perfect mewtwo perform really similar, but since previous ones have almost perfect ivs I'm somehow reluctant to break the pattern. I started to get raid invitations once or twice a month, so it might happen who knows

Gardevoir is one of the likely candidates 15/14/14 currently at lv35

Scizor, I really like to use this fast boy but he rarely gets his time to shine

Gyarados or Swampert is also optional. Kyogre is pretty good but Swampert's Surf is somehow looks charming. Gyarados on the other hand has extra resistance for ground, Where Venusaur loses with its poison typing, they could compliment each other.

If Charizard's community move is on par with Frenzy Plant I will definitely max one, hopefully a shiny. That's why I put Moltres on hold.

Depending on how Smackdown turns up and who gets it, Rhydon or second Tyranitar. That's also the reason Lord Helix is on hold.

I'm also open to other suggestions

Asked by KaygisizM5 years 11 months ago
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Mewto for sure! Everything correlates perfectly, especially when compared to the other Pokemon.

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Gardevoir is probably the best choice, since it is very difficult to keep up with Latios' Dragon Claws when using Charged Moves (Latias is another story). Not really necessary against Psychic sets because its Quick Moves aren't very effective, but is a great choice for Dragon Sets. Plus, if you get a better one you can always make one of them from DG to SB.

Gengar is the next option I would look at. It is highest DPS against Psychics such as the current Legendaries, even if for a few seconds, and legacy adds to that value. Gengar's value is in its longevity almost as much as its breakpoints because it goes down so quick, so surpassing the breakpoints is a good idea on Gengar to survive for a few more attacks.

Moltres is another great option, as it will still have more bulk than BB Charizard and is only slightly behind in DPS (Plus yours is already level 37).

Mewtwo is a maybe because you already have one at level 30, may want to look at that one for powering. Don't forget Mewtwo is glassy so more than one Shadow Ball Mewtwo isn't a bad option (though I wouldn't be able to afford it), and you can always have a second one with Focus Blast for taking on Blisseys that are being Golden berried.

I wouldn't both with Scizor just yet unless you encounter a lot of Gardevoirs in gyms in your area.

Omastar is great but only in niche matchups so I would hold off until we see Ho-Oh as a raid boss again. Its also a little worrying now that Smack Down is in the game's code, though it still has that double fire-resistance going for it.

I don't really see Swampert being a very good option. Sure it resists rock moves that it commonly targets but it is second to Gyarados which itself is second to Kyogre. If you really insist on powering more Water-types beyond 35 then I would look at Gyarados first.

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Mewtwo is not glassy at all. It has 4% less tankiness than Dragonite and 39% more than Espeon, which is one of the tankiest glass cannons.

Solid advice though, upvote for that.

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Well, I guess I'm comparing tankiness to legendaries and psuedolegendaries haha. But outside of countering fighting types (which means only for Tier 3s) and for gym offense (against ZH) it doesn't carry any resistances and its moves are pretty slow (all Charged Moves and its strongest Quick Move). It can generally take one of any Charged Move and is done after that (though mine has pretty low defense and HP IVs)

Point is, it's not like, say, TTar, where you will usually time out before using a full squad of them.

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Fair enough. It is definitely glassier than most legendaries and pseudos. All about what we compare to I guess.

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First of all thanks for detailed reply.
The reason behind Charizard and Swampert was double bar charge move actually. I enjoy Moltres already but most of the time Overheat is overkill. And I totally agree Swampert is not that game changing. However kyogre takes ages to release hydro pump, then again waterfall is enough most of the time, and Venusaur or Omastar does the same job as well.
For Smackdown we will all wait and respond in due time
Gardevoir, I will probably go for it as you also recommended. Not for short term raids but for being best of its type even without fast move. Mostly for collection value.
For Mewtwo I’m thinking Shadow ball and Psychic. Focus Blast if I regret previous investment, so it can still be of use. Since Alakazam and Espeon is way too glassy I’m not investing on either, just weather boosted ones. I’m not really fan of psychic typing. Therefore I feel lacking in that department and Gardevoir is also useful against fighting types.
Yeah I will go for Gardevoir and wait for Mewtwo, Smackdown and Charizard community day sometime later, thanks again

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