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Happy dilemma between two really good Lugias

So far I m lucky enough to have 151415 et 141515 (ADS) two iv 98 Lugia. And i may chose one to max out if i dont encounter a 151514 or 100 one. I know that 15A is essential to a lengendary but for Lugia there is a little bit exception because i max it out just for the challenge of 1v1 machamp raid. And here is the thing, according to the simulation, a 141515 lvl40 Lugia seems to perform exactely the same as a 100 one in every situation: 13damage for extrasensory and 86 damage for sky attack (16+103for windy weather). But on defence, when face a boosted machamp with counter, only 15defence could get that bulkpoint at lvl40 (3 damage for each counter in cloudy weather). What a coincidence lol ! And i gurss it will make a huge dufference if you try to 1v1 boosted counter machamp.
So you would choose which one to maxed out: a "perfect-machamp raid" one or a generally better one^^?

Asked by JEFFXU6 years ago
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15A is by no means essential. It's important for hitting breakpoints and thus saves you stardust if not maxing, but the likelihood of a breakpoint being achievable only at level 40 with 15a is very, very small (though it does exist). I have 4 maxed legendaries with less than 15 attack and I don't expect to ever be disadvantaged because of that.

I'm surprised to find that 15d Lugia can indeed do the 1-v-1 even in Cloudy, as reaching the bulkpoint means it takes the exact same amount of damage from Counter and dodged Close Combat as a from a non-boosted Machamp. The difference is indeed huge because the 1-v-1 can not be done against a boosted Champ if your Lugia has less than 15 defense.

The 15a is still preferable. Only go for the 15 defense one if you absolutely want to complete the 1-v-1 and Cloudy is your most common weather type to the point that all other weathers are rare. There is no real prestige to be gained from completing it in Cloudy, but less than 15 defense Lugia can't even try it in Cloudy.

PS. Now I feel extremely stupid because my Lugia has 15 defense and I've been skipping boosted C/CC Machamps for months because I thought it couldn't be done. Never occured to me to check it.

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Thank you for sharing your opinion. I think i will finally go with 141515 ones and my idea of 1v1 boosted machamp poped up just because sky attack is improuved signifucantly. Before that i don t even think about it. Giod luck to you as well hope you could finally make it XD

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Of course the one with 15 defense, hope you succeed 1v1ing the Machamp!

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15 defense doesn't help with the 1-v-1 unless it's cloudy, in which case it's a strict requirement for making it possible. Is that worth it for just one weather type that otherwise makes the 1-v-1 impossible?

EDIT: I would appreciate a constructive argument instead of a downvote. If you disagree, at least state why.

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Yeah finding a boosted machamp with C/CC is not that easy. Thats why its a dilemma for me at the first plac. Even if i find one, i have to dodge every single charge move to make it happen. So i totally understand your feeling haha

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