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Gen 4 and increased level cap

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Asked by Tiala5 years 10 months ago
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Gen 4 is clearly coming, and is probably just a few months away. No surprise there.

Increasing the level cap is something I thought they would do a while ago - the number of level 40 players in my area is pretty high, and it makes sense to give them more challenges, including some very high XP requirements to get to the higher levels. I suspect that above level 40, Pokemon will get even less of a bonus as they go up levels, but we'll see.

Both good things, but I'm not holding my breath.

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My guess is that with the increase and level cap, everyone may have to start at level 41 that have already reached those levels and they may reset experience. But with the new level cap (let’s say 45) I hope they give stardust or something to make up for lost XP beyond that level.

Gen 4 brings a lot of upgrades to current Pokemon while bringing a lot of powerhouses in the form of legendarys. My guess is that Acreus will replace Mewtwo as the new EX boss with something special attached to him. Like you can change his type manually before a battle. Or maybe you just get a random type when you get him and his charge move compliments it.

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You hope that whales get irritated/mad, which puts them closer to quitting the game, which reduces Niantic's revenue, which means less money for developing and supporting the game? You can think what you want about whales but fact is everyone has an incentive to keep them happy because they're doing a big part of financing our fun.

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Such a stupid thing would only weed out the immature and toxic idiots that already make the social aspect of the game a hassle. I believe the vast majority of level 40 players have the emotional stability to recognize that they aren't entitled to anything.

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Gen 4: Inevitable
Level cap increase: pointless

I mean pointless because the game is boldly reduced to getting lucky catches, grinding, and reaching breakpoints for Pokemon battles, and powering up Pokemon above level 35 is mostly a moot point, especially for legendaries and pseudos. The gains after level 35 are neglible in many cases and, unless all the relevant formulas get changed, powering up stuff above that threshold is usually a waste of resources. Powering mons above level 40 to 50 or even 60 will be a very foolish thing to do since it will provide almost no bonus benefit (in most cases).

I am fine with the current level cap, is what I am trying to say.

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Level cap increase for players is far from pointless. The game severely lacks endgame content and Niantic has a lot of incentive to offer more things to do for level 40 players. Even if it's just more of the same grind, it'll still motivate players more.

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The race of leveling up is pointless in my opinion. What will you do once you reach the new level cap? Wait for Niantic to increase it again?

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It is utterly and objectively pointless. This is not candy crush. Wouldn't it be a better idea for Niantic to add more content rather than just superficially raise the grinding perception of progress? Useless

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Adding a few new numbers is not end game content. Skill capping raid is. Pvp is. But neither are happening.

Game actually accelerates after hitting level 40 at least for the lv40 players I know.

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It took 3+ weeks to be tired/frustrated with Latios (beat it 32 times and lost 6 times to DC) but I'm very much tired of raiding it. I might not even do more than a weekend of Latias. I'd like new special research and Zapdos field research starting tomorrow. A level increase before June...but no Gen 4 until the next doldrum or two after this one. Tyranitar is taking half of my spent raid passes past 5 days...total of 41/56 caught, it might take up 80% of my passes soon

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by daltry 5 years 11 months ago

Gen 4 in September sounds about right.

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It will take so many resources to power up that it is practically meaningless. As far as bragging rights go, why not? Level 40 has been the cap for too long for those motivated by leveling.
No surprise about gen 4. They no doubt started working on it the day after gen 3 went live.
I'd really like to see some changes to the gym system, or some special abilities encoporated. Maybe NPC battles or even PVP. That would be exciting.

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Us level 40 crowd brag about having millions of XP, 6 digit pokemon caught, 30k+ battles, or hundreds of gold gyms.

Level is not that meaningful at all after level 38.

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Excess XP should count for something otherwise, I might as well stop buying lucky eggs.

CP distribution by level should change and should be more proportional by level.

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They said when they switched the Gym system there was supposed to be some reward for people who excelled in the old gym system.

They never went through with that reward.

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If you're already racking excess XP why are you still buying lucky eggs?!!! XD LMAO

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Gen 4... bring it on.

Level cap increase.... not just yet - let me enjoy level 40 (since 3/9) for a while, please. But because I've expected this, I'm still using lucky eggs at times and have > 23 million XP now.

It's fun being one of only 3 local players who have reached 40 :D ... just a little longer, please!

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Cap increase is not new content. Already 40M going towards 60M but just focusing on catching more pokemon for star dust.

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by hkn 5 years 11 months ago

Gen 4: Will eventually come. Hope for no (or fewer) regionals and for a more balanced metagame.

Increased level cap: Would benefit the most hardcore players. The impact on the rest of us is unclear. A level 50 Blissey may be almost impossible to take down even without berry feeding.

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If the gym system suddenly reverted back to what it was last year, then I wholeheartedly agree that a lvl 50 Blissey would be a royal pain. However, with motivation being a thing and higher CP mons decaying rather quickly, give it a few hrs and that lvl 50 Blissey will be a piece of cake. On top of that, we'll be able to power up our Machamps as well, so fear not the big pink tank. 😁

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Hardcore player dont care abkut level cap. We compete on xp gained, pokeom caught, gym battles faught, etc.

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by SvEn 5 years 11 months ago

I'm mostly excited about level cap, as long as we can power up our pokemon as well. Right now the levels 39 and 40 are just for fun, I really hope that 41-45 will not be. As a level 40 player with 27 maxed out pokemon, I want to invest my stardust in my best team. I want to be able to make these mons even better, not max out a 5th dragonite, a 4th machamp, or an alakazam which I would never use. Who cares if the changes are small and no new breakpoints are met? If my hundo machamp is able to stay in the fight for 5 more seconds, can get off one more dynamic punch, and all of its dynamic punches deal a little more damage, then this means it will be easier to duo tyranitar. With my Kyogre and Gengar at higher levels, I might be able to solo Claydol if it ever returns. In short, I'm excited, and I hope that this feature drops soon!

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If there will be a level cap increase, it should involve Prestige. You can level without limit, but your Level will be 40-1, 40-2...

The previously accumulated XP will not be reset, but will also not count towards Prestige.

Required XP for level will be lower than 5 million.

You will be able to power your pokémon up every 5 levels for the usual half CP.

Honestly I like level 40, you can, over time spend stardust on other pokémon than the best. I Do not have time to grind 2 hours a day to power all pokémon to level 50 with the usual power ups and with increasing XP making it take longer and longer.

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Well, level cap increase might mean we might be able to finally solo all T3s.

Gen 4 is what I'm mostly hyped about.
Got a 100% Murkrow waiting to become a Honchkrow.
Got a pretty good Snorunt female for Froslass.
Also got a somewhat good Misdreavus waiting for Mismagius.
Looking forward to getting a Garchomp, Lucario, and Giratina.

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All tier 3s have been soloed so far. Jolteon was the only unsoloable one originally but Groudon changed that.

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You need legendaries to solo the toughest ones though. I'm trying to do non-legend-aided solos like I did with Machamp.

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Well yes, you do need legendaries or weatherboost to solo Jolteon. Claydol can be done without legendaries with multiple legacy Gengars but most people don't have that so we can include it as one of the hardcore ones. A raise in max level might help here but the resources needed would probably be enormous.

The rest are all possible without legendaries but some do require your counters to be high level. I do the unique attackers no legends no pseudolegends no weatherboost challenge for every tier 3 lineup we get and can definitely appreciate the challenge of not using legendaries.

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I've been expecting gen 4 to be released with the 2 year anniversary. But unless some code is added soon I don't think that will happen

People aren't realistic about the xp requirements if the do increase the level cap. I'd expect it to be 7.5 million to reach level 41 and 10 million more to reach level 42. Continue that trend and not many people will ever reach 50 or whatever the new cap would be

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by Arak2 5 years 11 months ago

Personally I am hoping they come out with something different than simple Level Cap goes up 5, pokemon can be leveled +5.

I know MegaEvolutions are too soon Generation wise... but imagine something like this Trainer Level cap +5.

For each level above 40, you get 1 Item that can be attached to a pokemon to give it a significant power boost. (Like a Megaevolution. Or if it is too soon to do Megaevolutions maybe 25% More Damage 25% Less Damage Taken) That item can only be moved to a new pokemon once a day. So a level 41 Trainer would have 1 Super Pokemon, while a level 45 would have 5

Or make Level 41-45 Pokemon much easier dust/candy to level up. Say 5 Candy 2500 Dust BUT make those levels +1 to each stat. So a Level 45 Dragonite is a Level 40 Dragonite with +5 attack +5 def +5 stam. People would still have to pay high costs to get a pokemon to 40, but since the difference in 40-45 would be so marginal so too would costs.

Another thought would be don't increase pokemon stats at level 41+. But increase thier movepools. Maybe a 41 gets a 3rd Quick, 42 gets a 4th Charge, 43 Gets a 4th Quick, 44 makes fast TMs chooseable 45 makes Charge TMs choosable

Please lord let it be something new.

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This is an unrealistic expectation but I really like the idea

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