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Flawed design when TM-ing one of two charge moves

This has been addressed previously, but I bring it up again so that you know what to expect from Niantic support. I only had one Mewtwo with Shadowball. It has suboptimal IVs but I brought it to level 40 because of its charge move. With the opportunity to obtain a second charge move, I acquired one for my Mewttwo, and I got Flamethrower, which i wanted to change to Ice beam or Thunderbolt. Unfortunately I was too quick and managed to make the wrong choice, I selected Shadow ball instead of Flamethrower. I was so bummed out, but i stopped playing so that history should be evident and have been in dialog with Niantic support.

I have argued that the current design is flawed as there is no control question whether to actually change the charge move selected, and there is no possibility to redo the last action. I contacted them the first time on December 15, but they have still not corrected this isse. Some of the replies I have received:

"Unfortunately, we do not have the option to reverse such actions made or manually add TMs to a Trainers account or add a Move set to a Pokémon from our end. We apologize for any inconvenience caused and hope that you would understand this."

"We will take this as a feedback from you to make Pokémon GO experience better for our Trainers. Our team is putting steady efforts to make the Pokémon GO experience an unrivaled one."

"Thanks again for taking the time to share this feedback with us. As you already know, we collect and share the information you provide about your experiences to continue improving Pokémon GO."

"We always look forward to making Pokémon GO better and interesting for our Trainers. That being said, we value your time and efforts in sharing your valuable thoughts."

I have replied back that i don' t think this is good enough. The mistake I did was rather costly, literally months of play and I cannot even correct it in the future. Quite demotivating in fact.

Asked by Donnacito5 years 2 months ago
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It's very sad, there is no way around it. The only you can do is trade for another SB Mewtwo, unfortunately...

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Yes, that's what they are saying, that there is no way around it. But then again I don't understand why Niantic has not changed this flawed design since the introduction of the second charge move. They keep certain moves exclusive as ex raids or at CDs, but then again they allow you to wipe out everything as a result of a millisecond of lack of concentration..

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That's sad. Be very, very, very, very, very, very careful when TMing a Pokemon with a legacy or exclusive move.

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The game is based on repetitive and hence automated procedures, and I was too quick obviously, I have learnt that now..
But again I think this design is flawed and needs to be corrected

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You're right, it's a flawed design. They made the space between both moves slightly wider and highlighted them. But it's not enough to prevent the dreaded mistake.

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I'm sorry for your loss, especially since it was your only SB Mewtwo.

I agree wholeheartedly that the design is flawed. They prevent mass transferring Hat Pikachu and yet allow us to TM away a priceless legacy move with a small misclick. Once again this shows clear lack of testing of their own game, the fear of accidentally picking the legacy move is instantly noticeable when you start unlocking second charge moves.

I foresee Niantic giving us a confirmation prompt for this eventually but until then, be very careful.

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This is just pure shit. Legacy moves should be made having double confirmation. This is why i don't want to give anything with a legacy move a double move unless when really needed.

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Press F to pay respects.

The change to the UI was a step in the right direction and frankly should have been the layout from the beginning. The fact that multiple people continually to fudge their move selection after this shows it isn't enough. I'm an advocate of double confirmation across the board, legacy or not. Even with non-legacy you run the risk or erroneously selecting the wrong move, wasting a CTM. If we need double confirmation to transfer hatchus then we should have it for things that are actually important as well.

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I don't think we need double confirmation for everything, it will just become another automatic step and have the same problem. Only irreversible steps like TMing legacy moves should have double confirmation.

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Confirmation is lacking altogether when you select a Pokemon with two charge moves. You get the question "Do you want to teach xxx a new Charged attack? Which attack should XXX forget? You have the choice between two charge moves and once you hit one of the buttons, the charge move is changed. So if you hit the wrong button, as I did, you are doomed.

There is not the same need for confirmation if there is only a single charge move, as it is not possible to make the wrong pick.

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by Xegeth 5 years 2 months ago

I had to use two charged TMs on my shiny Sky Attack Moltres to get Overheat and I have never been so anxious and careful. I was extremely pleased my best Metagross got Earthquake without an extra TM simply because it meant I wouldn't have to TM it and go through the risk of a missclick. What you describe is my worst nightmare... I feel you.

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