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Are non-legendary Fire-types that worthless?

Not a single one makes the Attackers Tier List (Houndoom is listed with double-dark moveset) or even honorable mentions. That was when Exeggutor and Venusaur were raid bosses. Are they that worthless in the current metagame?

RIP my Arcanine/Charizard/Flareons who took down many Exeggutors and DG Blisseys under the old gym system.

Asked by hkn6 years 5 months ago
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by pipjay 6 years 5 months ago

They are still as good as they used to be... but there are slightly better attackers that have slipped in ahead of them. If you have not powered up a legendary fire attacker (I haven't yet) then don't feel bad about using one of the top non-legendary fire pokemon.

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They only received a minor power creep imo. The ones u mentioned are still useful attackers if u have invested in them. But a non-legendary fire type is coming in gen 5 that will oust these existing legendary fire pokemon

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Fire-type Pokémon will find their rightful place in the meta once Gen 3's menacing Metagross and Aggron make their appearances. The only Fire-type Pokémon even worth mentioning right now are Moltres and Entei, but that's only natural, since they're legendaries.

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Aggron is also rock type, so unfortunately it cancels out his fire weakness. But i am very stoked to use my moltres on metagross!

Edit: Aggron is double weak to ground so ill be using ground al the way

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Flareon with FS/OH is the 5th highest DPS currently.

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How can that be when Moltres with FS/OH is 11th best?

Edit: looked up some spreadsheets and Flareon is indeed the 5th species on the list but Flareon with FS/OH is 14th best dps moveset

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Flareon will more damage move for move. Mildred will live longer to do many more moves.

I don't bother fixing autocorrect anymore. All my Moltres are named Mildred

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Moltres will do more damage because of the higher attack stat that he has and will live longer due to the fact that he has more bulk

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This is the funniest thing I have read all day.

Mildred.

Eventually you will be able to type Mildred and Moltres will pop up.

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by YodaJi 6 years 5 months ago

I don't think that they are worthless, it's just that there are so many of them without one really distinguishing enough to be separated out. I have a 100% fire fang/fire blast Arcanine that I maxed out to level 36.5 that performs very well and rates high on pokebattler for raids but he will never be listed as a top counter or attacker because too many options exist of the same type that are just as good or better.

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I found out that my WC Arcanine is a great Gyarados/Articuno/Scyther counter lol.

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by antgoo 6 years 5 months ago

They aren't useless, it's just that the legendaries have the ability to be better. However being better is largely a moot point, since basically all fire pokemon are useless in the current meta (based on the dearth of grass pokemon used by players most of the time). I personally haven't bothered to power up any moltres of entei yet since there is no need, my flareon, arcanine and charizard (which are all already powered up) do just fine in the few situations I need to use them.

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