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Acheops down the road

The first thing is how good could he be? He was horrible once last half health in the games but in PoGo I don’t think he’d need any nerfs for the most part.

The second is if I did the calculations right (probably not) his stats would be

293Atk - 139Def - 150HP

That would make him probably second to Rampardos in DPS but that all depends on movesets

Obviously all of this is so far away, we don’t even have Gen 4 yet but Gen 5 has fewer meta Pokémon but also some very good specific ones at that

Asked by MMike0245 years 7 months ago
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Doesn’t Rampardos have a higher attack stat?

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Technically he does by two points according to GP. He also has a more favorable bulk spread as well as less weaknesses compared to the many of Archeops. The movesets will really determine who would be better but even then Ttars bulk compared to either still keeps in as a top option

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Plus there’s Rhyperior in the mix. I think the rock/flying could make it a novelty for certain matchups but I’m not really sure. We’ll have plenty of options it seems!

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Well rampardos is a full in physical attacker in the main games but because its speed's below 75, it gets a sped mod cut, Archeop's is mixed, its a glass cannon with high speed, reaping the benefits of its higher speed plus its higher special attack might actually push it over into being better
Pre speed mod and other modifiers, the X*7/8 and y*1/8 for both are, Archops has 136.5 atk, and Rampardos has 152.5, but with a speed of 110 and 58 respectively, I dont know how the sped mod calculations work out

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SpeedMod = 1 + ([BASE_STAT] - 75)/500

For Archeops this gives it a speed mod of 1.07 and for Rampardos a speed mod of 0.966.

EDIT: To elaborate, stat calculations are as follows:

Stamina = [BASE_STAT] * 2
Attack = ModifiedAtk * Speedmod
Defense = ModifiedDef * Speedmod

ModifiedAtk = 2([BASE_GREATER] * 7/8 + [BASE_LESSER] * 1/8)
ModifiedDef = 2([BASE_GREATER] * 7/8 + [BASE_LESSER] * 1/8)

SpeedMod defined above. [BASE_GREATER] Is the higher of the two stats in question between physical and special attack or defense, depending on the stat being calculated. [BASE_LESSER] is the lower one. Pokemon with the same base physical and special attack/defense are easiest to calculate since you just double the stat them apply the speed mod. The speed mod basically buffs/nerfs the attack and defense by 5% for every 25 points of deviation from 75.

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Archeops has at least the possibility of a Rock Throw + rock charge moveset, whilst Rampardos has to hope to get Smack Down. So I guess Archeops could work as a good Rock glass cannon?

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Archeops can learn the coveted Rock Throw+Rock Slide moveset from level up in the main series which would top any Stone Edge movesets. The other interesting thing is that he can actually learn Wing Attack+Sky Attack which would potentially make him the highest DPS flying attacker for almost all gens barring any new moves added by then

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