Future Legends: Lati-Twins, Regis, and Deoxys

Future Legends: Lati-Twins, Regis, and Deoxys

On March 16 2018, Rayquaza will be flying back into the stratosphere to likely be replaced by a new Gen 3 legendary. While Kyogre and Rayquaza were predictable, being part of Groudon’s trio, there is little telling who is up next. Will we see the Eon Duo, Latios and Latias? Perhaps the Legendary Titans, Registeel, Regice, and Regirock, divided out like the Legendary Beasts? Or maybe we will see all four Deoxys forms in some unique way? In order to prepare for the unknown and satisfy burning curiosities, we have decided to make a lite raid counter guide for all possible bosses!

If you’d like an audio version of this content, this video goes over the Lati-twins and this video goes over the Regis.

Latios and Latias

If the Lati-twins are coming out, they will probably come together. Given that Niantic has been splitting gen 3’s regionals by hemisphere, it is reasonable to assume we would have two months of these rotating Dragons. While these raids aren’t projected to be terribly difficult, these two are unlike any powerful Dragon-types we have seen to date. They have a Psychic sub-typing instead of Flying. As a result, Ice-types won’t be nearly as effective as they were against Rayquaza.

While this Psychic sub-typing alleviates the Latis of an exploitable, doubled Ice-type weakness, it does bring in new vulnerabilities to Dark, Bug, and Ghost-types. Also, given the weak fast moves and relatively weak charge moves they currently have in the game master, Dragonite and Salamence have far less to fear as they did with Rayquaza. Overall, the best counters to both of these raids include Rayquaza, Dragonite, and Tyranitar, with Salamence and Shadow Ball Mewtwo not too far behind in performance.

If you’re up against their Dragon Claw sets, Gardevoir and Granbull stand out as high TDO options and are overall decent picks for this raid, especially if it’s cloudy out. Other lesser picks include Groudon, Scizor, Pinsir, Houndoom, Crunch and Outrage iterations of Gyarados, Articuno, and Jynx. Gengar does stand out as a high DPS option, but only with Shadow Claw and in reference to the lesser picks. Compared to the aforementioned Dragon-types and Tyranitar, Gengar is more glass than canon.

The Regi Trio

Like the Legendary Birds and Beasts, the Legendary Titans form a trio. It stands to reason that if we get one of them, we’ll see the other two in rotation shortly after. While each Regi is a different type from the other, like the Lati-twins, they all have similar counters. Registeel and Regice both invite Fire-types while Registeel and Regirock call for Ground-types. But the real catch-all for these monoliths is the Dynamic Punch duo, Machamp and Hariyama.


Against both Registeel and Regice, your best counters are Moltres and Entei. Because of Moltres’ higher Attack stat and resistance to Focus Blast, it will be a stronger pick, but overall the two Fire-types are similar in performance. Ho-Oh is a notably high TDO option against Regice specifically, resisting all but its Ice-type attacks and hitting back with a super effective Steel Wing and Fire Blast. Against Registeel, Groudon stands out, being the most powerful Ground-type in Pokemon GO. If you’re lacking these legendary Pokemon, Fighting-types such as Machamp, Hariyama, and Heracross are great options, as well as Fire-types such as Charizard and Flareon. Fire Fang + Fire Blast Salamence also makes a unique adjunct counter for both of these raids, just watch out for Blizzard!


Against Regirock, both Groudon and Kyogre reign supreme. Where Kyogre has higher DPS, Groudon stands out in a big way with its resistances to both Zap Cannon and Stone Edge. Machamp and Hariyama continue to be great counters, especially against Stone Edge sets thanks to Fighting-type’s resistance to Rock. Exeggutor and Venusaur are also decent, lower DPS options that resist both Zap Cannon and Focus Blast. Speaking of Grass-types, Groudon’s Earthquake and Solar Beam sets are both optimal for this fight. Solar Beam is just *that strong* or rather, Earthquake is just *that weak.* Whether the cup is half full or half empty, the end result saves us the hassle of having to use a Charged TM.

These Pokemon aside, both Metagross and Focus Blast Mewtwo also make good adjunct counters to this fight and both function well against Regice too! Against Focus Blast movesets, Gyarados, Ho-Oh, Heracross, and Hydro Pump Salamence also make decent alternatives. If nothing else, you can always deploy your Vaporeon armada.


While Deoxys is a mythic Pokemon and not a legendary, it isn't the iconic "pixie" type like Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi, which gives some hope it may fly under Niantic's radar. The optimism comes from the fact that Deoxys has four different variants like Castform. Introducing a mechanic that influences the raid boss' form would shake up the tier 5 scene and help keep the game fresh.

Unlike Castorm, Deoxys’ alternative forms are associated with Attack, Defense, and Speed rather than weather and typing. While Speed isn’t a stat in Pokemon GO, the base stats are still carried over and modified to fit GO. However, none of Deoxys’ base stats are currently translated in the game master as they use “1” as a presumed placeholder. On top of that, Deoxys currently carries the benign charge move “Swift” in its moveset. Until the game master changes, it is highly unlikely that we will see this alien as a raid boss.

As far as preparing for this fight goes, Deoxys’ pure Psychic-typing means that anything that wrecked Mewtwo will work excellently. Looking at the current moveset in the game master, no Fighting-type charge move is present to threaten Tyranitar. Without this protection, Tyranitar will be the MVP of this fight, followed by the higher DPS Gengar and Shadow Ball Mewtwo. However, when looking at the translation of Deoxys’ base stats into GO values, its base form and Attack form have a defense stat of 102 and 48 respectively. To put this in perspective, most tier 5 raid bosses have a defense stat between 150 and 210. Unless something with these stats changes, there may not even be a need to prepare for this pushover.


There is currently no way of knowing of which Pokemon is coming after Rayquaza for tier 5 raids. What we do know is that Gen 3 still has more legendary (and mythic) Pokemon to release into the world. This guide is meant to highlight the best overall counters to each of these fights to help trainers prepare. Overall, it looks like our next six months could be defined by Tyranitar and Machamp. While Niantic hasn’t pulled the plug on their respective raids just yet, it may be mindful to farm them while they still exist.

With this in mind, hopefully, Pokemon GO brings in some new mechanics or ways of presenting tier 5 raid bosses. It’s hard to imagine that three months of using Machamp followed by three months of using Tyranitar (and/or Dragonite/Rayquaza) will be very entertaining. Given the unique puzzles required to unlock the Regi’s in Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, perhaps the Regi’s may be part of the “quest” system hinted at in the datamines. Only time will tell!

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